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In reply to the discussion: Reuters: Why you may retire in poverty [View all]hay rick
(9,627 posts)21. The retirement problem is an extension of the incomes problem.
Median incomes have been declining which in turn has decimated the savings that would otherwise go into defined contribution plans. From the article:
What about our system of tax-advantaged retirement savings - chiefly 401(k) and Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs)? Will they come to the rescue? Perhaps for affluent households. But they are just not getting the job done for the vast middle.
Just 14 percent of households report they expect to have enough money to live comfortably in retirement, according to the Employee Benefit Research Institute. Sixty percent of households tell EBRI that the total value of their savings and investments - excluding their homes - is less than $25,000.
Just 14 percent of households report they expect to have enough money to live comfortably in retirement, according to the Employee Benefit Research Institute. Sixty percent of households tell EBRI that the total value of their savings and investments - excluding their homes - is less than $25,000.
The disappearing defined benefit pensions are disappearing both in number and in solvency. A recent story here: http://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20120709/NEWS03/120709911
Before the housing/financial crisis, static and declining incomes were disguised by consumption based on borrowing financed by inflated home equity values. That option has been exhausted. Faced with a recalcitrant Congress, the Obama administration turned to the payroll tax holiday as a means of propping up demand. So now we are depleting Social Security's Trust Fund to compensate for inadequate incomes. We are eating our seed corn.
The approaching "fiscal cliff" should provide a lovely bipartisan opportunity for the continuing attack on American's incomes and retirement opportunities.
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The headline doesn't sound so bad if you say it in a Jeff Foxworthy voice...
Odious justice
Aug 2012
#3
I DO BEGRUDGE CONGRESS THEIR PENSIONS! They are the reason most of us will spend...
Raster
Aug 2012
#9
Unfortunately, Congress will not consider the "big picture." It is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS we cannot...
Raster
Aug 2012
#12
Ok, you're right. Go far into debt and live well beyond your means, and you'll be just fine
cbdo2007
Aug 2012
#49
Sometimes people do that, but end up broke anyway due to bad luck or health issues
TwilightGardener
Aug 2012
#23
For seniors: How does a reverse mortgage work if your mortgage is underwater?
tclambert
Aug 2012
#22
How can the head of the National Institute for Retirement Security say this?
BeyondGeography
Aug 2012
#28
The only part of the post I don't understand is people over 50 owing more than
virgogal
Aug 2012
#29
That's why I used the phrase "a good portion" because I certainly couldn't include everyone.
virgogal
Aug 2012
#32
I'm over 50. Owned my place for almost 20 years now and the recent appraisal shows a 60% devaluation
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#40
You purchased a home and improved it and you are underwater after almost 20 years of paying on it?
NNN0LHI
Aug 2012
#42
We have a working farm and have refinanced once to make desperately overdue improvements
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#44