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zentrum

(9,870 posts)
84. Problem here is
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:46 PM
Aug 2018

...that one of the women he allegedy harrased (in the photo) said she was in on the joke and not at all harrassed.

Another issue is the on-going rumor that one of the women was a rightwing shill.

The women who worked in his Senate Office describe it him as running the safest-for-women office in Washington.

We needed a well-aired, due process investigation, which he asked for. It didn't really do a damn thing for the Democrats and is now a story that will do nothing but harm her should she care to mention it during her climb to the Presidency. It had no effect whateveron Repugs and their agenda.

Meanwhile we've lost one of the best Democrats in the Senate.

What good was it?

This rush to oust Al upsets me and all the other women I know. I'm haviing a really hard time getting over it.







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Gillibrand pamdb Aug 2018 #1
I encourage you to reconsider that perspective oberliner Aug 2018 #4
We seem to have this ongoing problem... yallerdawg Aug 2018 #65
Problem here is zentrum Aug 2018 #84
"Problem here is" you are peddling misinformation and falsehoods. yallerdawg Aug 2018 #87
Franken was run out on a rail. pangaia Aug 2018 #102
Franken was taken out by the REPUBLICANS. Hortensis Aug 2018 #124
I'm always amenable zentrum Aug 2018 #112
It's no rumor. Leeann tweeden is a RWNJ BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #106
Should men, then, also vote for her? question everything Aug 2018 #101
+1 EffieBlack Aug 2018 #52
You are correct. My husband and I have the exact same feelings as you. beaglelover Aug 2018 #72
Do you are blaming a woman for the bad behavior of a man? all american girl Aug 2018 #90
Right on target. Blue_true Aug 2018 #98
Blah blah blah BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #107
Not the facts. lark Aug 2018 #113
Franken on that picture: yallerdawg Aug 2018 #122
+1000! nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author SharonClark Aug 2018 #155
By going after Al Franken? dem4decades Aug 2018 #2
Please consider having an open mind and getting to know more about her oberliner Aug 2018 #3
I'll give her as much of a fair hearing as she gave Al. dem4decades Aug 2018 #8
She is a Democrat who has fought for the causes promoted by DUers since she got to the Senate oberliner Aug 2018 #11
So did Al sdfernando Aug 2018 #67
But how can I ever trust her on anything important? lark Aug 2018 #50
Just spitballing here, but how about looking at her voting record? brooklynite Aug 2018 #53
Being a senator is about more than votes EffieBlack Aug 2018 #60
People are more than just policies, there's character and she's badly lacking IMO. lark Aug 2018 #61
...along with 99% of the other Democratic Senators? brooklynite Aug 2018 #68
I wish she'd shown an open mind before leading the fight to drum of our best senators out of office EffieBlack Aug 2018 #58
Nope, I know all I need to know! nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #93
Agreed. At the very least, Senator Gillibrand showed very poor judgment Vogon_Glory Aug 2018 #6
I think he should go long and run for President janterry Aug 2018 #82
She screwed my state out of its best senator since Paul Wellstone, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #5
That seems unfair oberliner Aug 2018 #7
So did Al Franken. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #9
Does what happened with Franken negate all the good work she has done? oberliner Aug 2018 #13
Do you live in New York? Then vote for her. MineralMan Aug 2018 #14
THANK YOU!!! Raster Aug 2018 #28
LOL --good one.. And I live in NY. pangaia Aug 2018 #103
It negates the good work Al Franken was doing and would have continued to do. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #15
You can say the same thing about Al Franken's good work EffieBlack Aug 2018 #64
Amen! No, No, and Hell no! DFW Aug 2018 #78
Kinda where I am, but of course, it depends on who's still in the running when voting in the primary InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #48
Exactly. Owl Aug 2018 #120
I saw her on Stephen Colbert. GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #10
That's my problem with her, she just seems too "politician-y" unitedwethrive Aug 2018 #132
So what? I mean, most of us don't vote where she's running. MineralMan Aug 2018 #12
I'm with you. I can't vote for or against her at this point, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #16
I'm sure there will be plenty of great candidates for the 2020 primaries. MineralMan Aug 2018 #18
The point is Drahthaardogs Aug 2018 #104
At this stage, none of it matters. MineralMan Aug 2018 #114
I hope Amy Klobuchar runs RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #20
I could support Amy as a presidential candidate, although MineralMan Aug 2018 #22
Even though she asked Franken to step down as well... brooklynite Aug 2018 #55
As I said, there are others I prefer over Amy. MineralMan Aug 2018 #63
Wrong RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #99
I never said she did publicly. brooklynite Aug 2018 #117
Then it was not the same.... RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #118
"repeatedly and without pause"..."with zeal" brooklynite Aug 2018 #119
See, I really don't need to RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #127
You realize I was a supporter of Al Franken, right? brooklynite Aug 2018 #128
Meh. I've never been all that impressed with her. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #24
That is one of my problems with her, too DFW Aug 2018 #83
She betrayed a wonderful fellow Democrat....Franken. Gillibrand can go pound sand. Rene Aug 2018 #17
Folks: When you saw the headline, was there any doubt who posted it? RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #19
What's the deal there. I recognized the thread was familiar dem4decades Aug 2018 #30
nope heaven05 Aug 2018 #32
Nope Meowmee Aug 2018 #54
I wish it wasn't true uponit7771 Aug 2018 #62
I am waiting for Casprings to show up. That poster loved to stir this pot. rzemanfl Aug 2018 #69
Haha. Nope. Crunchy Frog Aug 2018 #74
Nope! nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #94
No surprise at all. And there also appears to be a "no-doubter" twin. Maybe I'm wrong, but... VOX Aug 2018 #143
I was totally shocked!!! tavernier Aug 2018 #145
Gambling in this establishment! VOX Aug 2018 #148
On another subject, your link goes to a site MineralMan Aug 2018 #21
Thanks for the interesting reply. nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #95
She overreacted to Franken. I wouldn't support her in a primary and would have to hold Vinca Aug 2018 #23
that's the very reason she heaven05 Aug 2018 #39
You really think so? ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #51
I wouldn't mind if she did. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #42
oyz.com, what a bullshit source tenderfoot Aug 2018 #25
No, thanks. PubliusEnigma Aug 2018 #26
I am having a hard time forgiving her for forcing out our greatest warrior for us Al Franken kimbutgar Aug 2018 #27
Greatest warrior?. Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #71
I guess you don't remember how he made Sessions skittish during his confirmation hearing kimbutgar Aug 2018 #97
Ok that's one thing Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #100
Really like her. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #29
Yes. He did say that, didn't he? MineralMan Aug 2018 #33
Lots and lots of people did. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #37
No, not only one is faulted. Not at all. MineralMan Aug 2018 #43
You make a great point. nt NCTraveler Aug 2018 #46
She led the charge BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #108
Nothing difficult about it at all. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #111
This too uponit7771 Aug 2018 #45
Al Franken workinclasszero Aug 2018 #31
This.nt NCTraveler Aug 2018 #40
LOL !!! stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #34
Sad thing is she doesn't seem to believe in due process MoonRiver Aug 2018 #35
She never denied anyone due process. At all. nt NCTraveler Aug 2018 #38
She led the movement forcing Franken to resign before he got the due process he requested. MoonRiver Aug 2018 #41
She did not deny him due process. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #44
She had no power to deny him due process. MoonRiver Aug 2018 #47
"She had no power to deny him due process." NCTraveler Aug 2018 #49
"Denying due process" can also amount to massive political pressure, MoonRiver Aug 2018 #57
Point to the "facts" that support your claim that "most Democrats will not support her". brooklynite Aug 2018 #59
JMHO MoonRiver Aug 2018 #66
Gilli is damaged goods poetshepherd Aug 2018 #36
And so when was it in her "fearless" march to power elfin Aug 2018 #56
Thank you for posting Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #70
She threw Al Franken into a ditch, and we lost our most cogent, hard-hitting House Democrat. VOX Aug 2018 #73
How so? Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #115
Honestly? YES, they did. No one, including those three, even heard Franken's side of the story. VOX Aug 2018 #129
One question Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #130
Jesus H. Christ, what's he gonna do, take on fellow Democrats AND the right wing ALONE? VOX Aug 2018 #133
He apologized several times Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #139
You just keep playing the same note, in this and other threads. DONE. VOX Aug 2018 #142
Yes I keep bringing up the same facts. Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #144
No, that's not what you're doing. You are fomenting discord and ill-will with a fellow DUer. VOX Aug 2018 #149
Speak for yourself Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #151
FRESH FACT: WELCOME TO IGNORE. n/t VOX Aug 2018 #152
OK Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #153
Great post! tavernier Aug 2018 #146
Thank you! VOX Aug 2018 #147
Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #75
Oh, snap! MineralMan Aug 2018 #77
Just taking one for the team if it gets deleted. Crunchy Frog Aug 2018 #79
No thanks. Her previous career as an attorney defending big tobacco was all I needed to know. jalan48 Aug 2018 #76
Another anti Al Franken victory lap I see. Kingofalldems Aug 2018 #80
As opposed to the monthly "I miss Al Franken" posts? brooklynite Aug 2018 #85
I can also comment on them. Kingofalldems Aug 2018 #88
You may certainly comment... brooklynite Aug 2018 #89
I know, you know her Staff, Etc, Etc, Etc! We get it. nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #96
Actually, I have no contact with Gillibrand at all... brooklynite Aug 2018 #116
Don't forget the rubbing of noses BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #123
I see, you'd prefer to have our candidates underfunded? brooklynite Aug 2018 #131
"Huuuuuuh? What are you talking about?" RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #105
They're also fishing OPs BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #109
What does "Breaking Big" mean in the context of this article? OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #81
She does not appear on my list of candidates that I would vote for in the primary CentralMass Aug 2018 #86
LOL, Nice try!! nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #91
Will voter for her in a General but never in a primary Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #110
No thanks. Owl Aug 2018 #121
I agree jcgoldie Aug 2018 #125
KG won't get my vote during the primary. KPN Aug 2018 #126
She's not going to be my first, second or third choice Horse with no Name Aug 2018 #134
What did you think of the video? oberliner Aug 2018 #135
Not interested in watching KG propaganda Horse with no Name Aug 2018 #136
She is a Democrat oberliner Aug 2018 #137
So is Manchin. Luckily neither need my vote. Horse with no Name Aug 2018 #138
What about Harris, Warren and Sanders? Trumpocalypse Aug 2018 #140
Too anxious to be seen as holding the moral high ground during the Roy Moore debacle Ligyron Aug 2018 #141
What is the point of this thread other than division? Demsrule86 Aug 2018 #150
Perhaps StuckInTexas Aug 2018 #154
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