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In reply to the discussion: MI-GOV: Abdul continues his daily scorched earth attacks against Whitmer. [View all]lapucelle
(20,950 posts)213. Onward Together comprises three entities:
a 501(c)(4) membership organization that collects funds from donors and members, a CMTE pac, and a superpac, both of which raise and spend or disburse funds.
There are no disclosure requirements for 501(c)(4) organizations, but there are disclosure requirements for CMTE pacs and superpacs. It is a complex system set up by two adults experienced in setting up such entities: Hillary Clinton and Howard Dean.
You are absolutely correct in saying that the membership organization component of Onward Together was founded as a 401(c)(4), and I do sincely apologize for being incorrect about that particular arm of Onward Together. However, as I stated in my original post:
If HRC and Howard Dean had organized as a 501(c)(4), it would not have been problematic in the same way as Our Revolution's troubling decision.
Clinton and Dean are private citizens and haven't spent the last two years bleating nonsense and sowing seeds of doubt about fellow Democrats with "good money" versus "bad money" narratives.
Clinton and Dean are private citizens and haven't spent the last two years bleating nonsense and sowing seeds of doubt about fellow Democrats with "good money" versus "bad money" narratives.
I'll amend that now to say the following:
Even though HRC and Howard Dean organized the membership organization sector of Onward Together as a 501(c)(4), it is not problematic in the same way as Our Revolution's troubling decision.
Clinton and Dean are private citizens and haven't spent the last two years bleating nonsense and sowing seeds of doubt about fellow Democrats with "good money" versus "bad money" narratives.
Clinton and Dean are private citizens and haven't spent the last two years bleating nonsense and sowing seeds of doubt about fellow Democrats with "good money" versus "bad money" narratives.
The 501(c)(4) corporation known as Our Revolution talks a good game, but exists solely as a corporate entity that does not disclose its donors. It says that it limits the dollar amount of the maximum donation, but its corporate bylaws allow the corporate board to make exceptions.
This is not a good look for purists who are not shy about smearing other people concerning corporate money and donor transparency.
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MI-GOV: Abdul continues his daily scorched earth attacks against Whitmer. [View all]
RandySF
Aug 2018
OP
And how is using a super pac with millions of dollars in unreported donors sending a positive messag
Tiggeroshii
Aug 2018
#24
Are you aware that Our Revolution is not required to disclose their donors to either the IRS or the
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#63
It's confusing. Our Revolution exploits this confusion to push their smear campaigns.
kcr
Aug 2018
#154
His implications are toxic and dirty, and people are not pleased with how he's been
Ninsianna
Aug 2018
#222
Crain's engaged in speculation, they could not back up anything they implied.
Ninsianna
Aug 2018
#236
Your accusation is that Crain's had no evidence for what it didn't say. That's total BS.
Jim Lane
Aug 2018
#239
Thank you for clearing up the misinformation that has clearly filtered down to DU.(nt)
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#163
I see blocking you from PM'ing me only makes things worse for everyone else here
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#204
You don't think that falsely and publicly accusing an opponent of a federal crime
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#182
".. he's willfully spreading disinformation and defamation because he's desperate."
Cha
Aug 2018
#44
I guess that poster doesn't want to play anymore now that facts are being brought in.
MrsCoffee
Aug 2018
#132
Our Revolution is a dark money group. Not required to disclose donors to the IRS or FEC
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#66
The donors are listed on the site and when you donate you are required to disclose your information
Tiggeroshii
Aug 2018
#82
"The admittedly do not disclose all donors". Nuff said, they are not accountable to the IRS nor FEC
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#85
You are missing the point. If they wanted to be "transparent" they would not be a 501c4
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#90
Justice Democrats also pay out huge consultancy fees - which was their criticism of the DNC.
JHan
Aug 2018
#88
There are mulitple statements dissing "consultants" that make it very clear what they think
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#149
Actually i explained this in a previous post which has not been acknowledged
Tiggeroshii
Aug 2018
#146
Seems like Justice Democrats and Brand New Congress trade money back and forth! Details:
George II
Aug 2018
#133
Now that's a Democrat! United against Republicans who want to destroy America.
betsuni
Aug 2018
#108
Not even close to what I said but you do tend to make it up as you go along.
mountain grammy
Aug 2018
#165
I want democrats elected. I don't need to go into details about my own activism..
JHan
Aug 2018
#127
According to RCP, Abdul is running dead last in all the polling. Whitmer is +20.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2018
#122
I just love the internet. You can't hide from your lies, even if you delete them.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2018
#220
Umm...they've been here since 2003 - you've been here a month...wtf is this shit? n/t
Fix The Stupid
Aug 2018
#160
Thank you! The GOP are by far the biggest beneficiaries of corporate donations.
betsuni
Aug 2018
#201