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In reply to the discussion: MI-GOV: Abdul continues his daily scorched earth attacks against Whitmer. [View all]Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)217. You cite FEC regulations, not all of which apply here.
The FEC doesn't regulate campaigns for state office, including governorships. Those are subject to state law. Different states have different rules, with different contribution limits. In a few states, even direct corporate contributions to candidates are legal, although they are prohibited in most states and in all federal races.
I don't know Michigan law on the point. I'm just cautioning against the mistake some people make, of failing to recognize that state races are sometimes subject to looser regulation than are federal races.
Just from this thread, I do know enough about the Michigan race to know that you are mischaracterizing El-Sayed's position when you write:
Second, they're basing this lie on the fact that HER FATHER was once at BCBS over a decade ago and that this makes his contributions to a 527 organization proof of her "accepting corporate money".
On other occasions, El-Sayed may have talked about Whitmer's father's role; that's something else I don't know. Either way, it's not accurate to say that he's "basing" his allegation on that, as if that were the only basis. His tweet linked to this Crain's article -- "Untraceable cash spills into Michigan governor's race" -- which doesn't mention Whitmer's father. Instead, the Crain's article notes that BCBS "has allied with Whitmer"; it details the organizational arrangements by which BCBS could (legally, I assume) channel corporate money to help Whitmer, without there being a public record; and it reports that BCBS has declined to answer the question of whether it actually did so.
If Crain's is correct, it appears to me to reveal a weakness in Michigan's campaign finance law. If your allegations about El-Sayed's campaign finances are correct, that conclusion would be even stronger.
Your comments about El-Sayed's voting history are irrelevant to that point. They would be relevant to people trying to decide whether to support El-Sayed or Whitmer, but I'm not one of those people. (Translation: I'm not interested in further replies, from you or anyone else, about how Michiganders should vote in the primary.) I have not endorsed El-Sayed. My posts have been solely about the campaign finance issues raised by this thread.
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MI-GOV: Abdul continues his daily scorched earth attacks against Whitmer. [View all]
RandySF
Aug 2018
OP
And how is using a super pac with millions of dollars in unreported donors sending a positive messag
Tiggeroshii
Aug 2018
#24
Are you aware that Our Revolution is not required to disclose their donors to either the IRS or the
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#63
It's confusing. Our Revolution exploits this confusion to push their smear campaigns.
kcr
Aug 2018
#154
His implications are toxic and dirty, and people are not pleased with how he's been
Ninsianna
Aug 2018
#222
Crain's engaged in speculation, they could not back up anything they implied.
Ninsianna
Aug 2018
#236
Your accusation is that Crain's had no evidence for what it didn't say. That's total BS.
Jim Lane
Aug 2018
#239
Thank you for clearing up the misinformation that has clearly filtered down to DU.(nt)
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#163
I see blocking you from PM'ing me only makes things worse for everyone else here
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#204
You don't think that falsely and publicly accusing an opponent of a federal crime
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#182
".. he's willfully spreading disinformation and defamation because he's desperate."
Cha
Aug 2018
#44
I guess that poster doesn't want to play anymore now that facts are being brought in.
MrsCoffee
Aug 2018
#132
Our Revolution is a dark money group. Not required to disclose donors to the IRS or FEC
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#66
The donors are listed on the site and when you donate you are required to disclose your information
Tiggeroshii
Aug 2018
#82
"The admittedly do not disclose all donors". Nuff said, they are not accountable to the IRS nor FEC
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#85
You are missing the point. If they wanted to be "transparent" they would not be a 501c4
emulatorloo
Aug 2018
#90
Justice Democrats also pay out huge consultancy fees - which was their criticism of the DNC.
JHan
Aug 2018
#88
There are mulitple statements dissing "consultants" that make it very clear what they think
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#149
Actually i explained this in a previous post which has not been acknowledged
Tiggeroshii
Aug 2018
#146
Seems like Justice Democrats and Brand New Congress trade money back and forth! Details:
George II
Aug 2018
#133
Now that's a Democrat! United against Republicans who want to destroy America.
betsuni
Aug 2018
#108
Not even close to what I said but you do tend to make it up as you go along.
mountain grammy
Aug 2018
#165
I want democrats elected. I don't need to go into details about my own activism..
JHan
Aug 2018
#127
According to RCP, Abdul is running dead last in all the polling. Whitmer is +20.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2018
#122
I just love the internet. You can't hide from your lies, even if you delete them.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2018
#220
Umm...they've been here since 2003 - you've been here a month...wtf is this shit? n/t
Fix The Stupid
Aug 2018
#160
Thank you! The GOP are by far the biggest beneficiaries of corporate donations.
betsuni
Aug 2018
#201