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John Fante

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32. Chicago doesn't have the highest murder rate in the country.

Sun Aug 5, 2018, 09:52 PM

Aug 2018

So why zero in on it? It's a rhetorical question, I know why.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.chicagoist.com/amp/articles/create%3farticle_id=57c4705cada6e20b2551018a

For a certain segment of conservative politicians and pundits—far from all, to be sure—pointing out what is often referred to as “black-on-black crime” in Chicago has become the preferred shorthand for castigating ineffectual liberalism, reinforcing racial wedges and feigning a concern for crime victims—even when their voting records paint a different picture of their priorities.

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60 shot, nine dead in Chicago since Friday [View all] oberliner Aug 2018 OP

So, what is going on? dhol82 Aug 2018 #1

About 15 of those shot were in their teens. One boy was 11. oberliner Aug 2018 #4

I still don't understand why Chicago has become a Mecca of gun deaths. dhol82 Aug 2018 #21

Examining The Reasons For Chicago's Violence (NPR, 2016) oberliner Aug 2018 #22

right... heaven05 Aug 2018 #41

What the heck goes on out there? And why? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2018 #2

A lot of gang violence oberliner Aug 2018 #3

One explanation I have heard is unorganized gangs. Flaleftist Aug 2018 #11

Chicago has 59 main gangs Abnredleg Aug 2018 #16

The Nation of Islam headquarters is in Chicago. Whenever the NOI came to underthematrix Aug 2018 #5

What are you suggesting? oberliner Aug 2018 #10

I think NOI has some splaining to do. underthematrix Aug 2018 #24

AND YOUR POINT? heaven05 Aug 2018 #6

Huh? oberliner Aug 2018 #8

For some reason, du hates stories about certain crimes. I cannot imagine why. Tipperary Aug 2018 #13

go ahead heaven05 Aug 2018 #17

Sooo, black folks killing other black folks is "racially based" frustration? Tipperary Aug 2018 #30

more than likely heaven05 Aug 2018 #39

Gangs feed an economic system Eyeball_Kid Aug 2018 #52

BING friggin' Go. Ain't that the truth. Thanks. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #27

sure heaven05 Aug 2018 #14

What do you think can be done to help reduce gun violence in US cities? oberliner Aug 2018 #15

Two words heaven05 Aug 2018 #19

That's it. Shemp Howard Aug 2018 #36

"what choices has society given them" heaven05 Aug 2018 #40

That's the allegation I'd use as well. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #45

Kind of hard to put anything but a negative light on it MichMan Aug 2018 #18

true heaven05 Aug 2018 #20

You are absolutely correct malaise Aug 2018 #54

OOOHH BAM!!!!! heaven05 Aug 2018 #55

True story malaise Aug 2018 #57

yep, ever word heaven05 Aug 2018 #64

Oh my. I'm AFrican American and I've been to Chicago and loved it. I always underthematrix Aug 2018 #23

my answer was not to you. heaven05 Aug 2018 #25

Thank you for letting me know. underthematrix Aug 2018 #26

+1 John Fante Aug 2018 #35

or for others heaven05 Aug 2018 #43

You are getting flak obamanut2012 Aug 2018 #42

yeah on the flak heaven05 Aug 2018 #47

Looks like thy need a cold front malaise Aug 2018 #7

CNN indicated that this sort of violence does tend to increase during the summer oberliner Aug 2018 #9

Clearly malaise Aug 2018 #12

Indeed MountCleaners Aug 2018 #38

A site to keep handy... fleabiscuit Aug 2018 #28

Thanks for sharing that oberliner Aug 2018 #29

gun violence heaven05 Aug 2018 #48

My Fox News addicted friend says it was all MS13. I guess that must be the doc03 Aug 2018 #31

Chicago doesn't have the highest murder rate in the country. John Fante Aug 2018 #32

44 people were shot in 14 hours there today, 5 fatally oberliner Aug 2018 #34

shooting violence heaven05 Aug 2018 #49

Let's at least take a moment to remember the lives that were lost oberliner Aug 2018 #63

right heaven05 Aug 2018 #65

Remembering Jahnae Patterson - Chicago Tribune oberliner Aug 2018 #66

right.... heaven05 Aug 2018 #67

because of the sheer numbers noobareus Aug 2018 #58

America Does Not Value Life LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #33

You think this Chicago deal is on "pro-lifers"? AncientGeezer Aug 2018 #37

Chicago's problem isn't guns Amishman Aug 2018 #46

Ahhh--now I get it. Kingofalldems Aug 2018 #44

Blaming Democrats and politicizing these deaths is sickening oberliner Aug 2018 #61

Murders typically peak in evenings, over weekends, and during summer months struggle4progress Aug 2018 #50

Yes. MountCleaners Aug 2018 #53

Thankfully, here on DU we can discuss such topics without that kind of hysteria oberliner Aug 2018 #56

Sad that gun violence is still relatively commonplace in this country oberliner Aug 2018 #59

America's gun violence is a disgrace. And right-wingers frequently misrepresent Chicago: struggle4progress Aug 2018 #68

Twitler's secret plan not working out. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #51

"What the hell have you got to lose?" oberliner Aug 2018 #60

... by voting for (that wonderful august successful storied institution known as) tRump. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #62