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In reply to the discussion: Are Nordic countries really socialist? [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)77. I don't just disagree. He literally contradicts himself by defining socialism the way he has in the
quote I gave you. And here you are justifying the use of socialism in reference to small -s socialism of funding generous safety net programs, so even as you rail against the term as incorrect you are allowing for different interpretations of the word in your own usage. Democratic socialists aren't the ones conflating these things. They have been clear about their platform, which is in line with your small-s socialism.
Besides, what is considered infrastructure or necessary components is all a matter of agreement. Car manufacture, the case could be made, is a matter of infrastructure. Health insurance could certainly be considered that way if one wanted to make the case, the same as roads. Health Care should not be chiefly relegated to for-profit industries. The internet...etc. also fall into the prevue of infrastructure.
The question is always about where the line is negotiated, or point to me a truly capitalistic nation among first world countries. I asked before, why does that term get no heat even though it doesn't truly represent us?
And as to whether or not these safetynet programs exist by virtue of econimic wealth rather than as a healthy perpetuator of that econoomic wealth, I would say that's well off the mark. That these nations do well while supporting these sorts of programs proves that this doesn't put them at an international disadvantage for doing so.
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Now let's turn our attention to conservatives who call Obama and school shooting survivors socialist
ck4829
Aug 2018
#2
Not only aren't they "socialist", but they're tiny countries (population-wise).....
George II
Aug 2018
#4
And I see the opposite! Capitalism in its pure form is focused only on profits.
yardwork
Aug 2018
#10
Capitalism has very little to do with the divisions you're talking about. Those are intrinsic....
George II
Aug 2018
#14
"'Socialism' is a term that has come to mean whatever people want it to mean."
brer cat
Aug 2018
#17
Yes, you're right. He's been an avowed socialist for years. I still don't think it was smart...
brush
Aug 2018
#69
There are a few linguists who think English isn't a west Germanic language,
The Velveteen Ocelot
Aug 2018
#28
Good points. Their naivete in describing themselves as socialists, though well meaning...
brush
Aug 2018
#44
I think it's interesting that these countries are some of the most "happy" people
mitch96
Aug 2018
#36
The author's point of view is pretty transparent, but where are his facts wrong?
yardwork
Aug 2018
#73
Seems like all over the place...like lefties love for Castro and Madura...and when it
JCanete
Aug 2018
#75
I don't just disagree. He literally contradicts himself by defining socialism the way he has in the
JCanete
Aug 2018
#77
How about contributing to a railing against the term. Also, you've indicated agreement with this
JCanete
Aug 2018
#79
They are mixed economies, just like ours. Are we really Capitalist? That label seems to be
JCanete
Aug 2018
#74