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PoliticAverse

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6. I don't think I'd call stealing money from the defendant "irrelevant". A witness's criminal

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 05:13 PM

Aug 2018

activity is certainly relevant especially when it got almost all of it to go away in exchange for his testimony
against Manafort. Personal activites are relevant when they speak to credibility/honesty. He lied to his wife,
he lied to Manafort, why believe him now?

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Rick Gates admits extra-marital affair...paid with money embezzled from Manafort [View all] brooklynite Aug 2018 OP

Not your ideal star witness. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #1

His Personal Activities Are Irrelevant LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #2

I don't think I'd call stealing money from the defendant "irrelevant". A witness's criminal PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #6

Why believe any criminal informant? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #8

"Why believe any criminal informant?" - That's a good question. I wonder what the 12 jury members wi PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #10

Are you actually suggesting juries disregard criminal informants' testimony? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #11

Do you know what the word "ideal" means? To point out something has flaws is not to dismiss its PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #13

Well duh. Then what was the point of your post? Do YOU think he should not be believed? nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #16

I think the corroborating testimony of less flawed witnesses and actual physical evidence... PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #22

So you won't answer the question? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #24

I didn't suggest he wouldn't be ultimately believed by the jury. And as to my opinion on his... PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #25

Ah, but you apparently heard enough to lament that he is not the "ideal witness." SunSeeker Aug 2018 #26

Which, as we all can agree, he isn't. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #28

He's the ideal witness against Manafort, being his right hand man. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #30

Why believe him now? Because of a mountain of paperwork confirming his testimony, pnwmom Aug 2018 #9

Right! With the paper he is corroborated. Without it I doubt it. Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #31

Mueller wanted to interview all the choir boys in Manafort's circle of friends tavernier Aug 2018 #12

Diogenes would have given up quickly, I think. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #14

Manafort stole the money he had, from banks, countries. No honor among thieves. notdarkyet Aug 2018 #29

No informant is. No one who flips on a perp has a clean background. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #7

I know! gratuitous Aug 2018 #18

LOL SunSeeker Aug 2018 #27

Probably difficult to get a clean Republican star witness. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #35

That's the problem with all racketeering-like cases, if you think about it. Oneironaut Aug 2018 #36

Was that from a question from Manafort's lawyer? nt awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #3

Yes. And CNN reports it a bit differently, janx Aug 2018 #21

"Set a crook, to catch a crook". SharonAnn Aug 2018 #4

... when you're all out of fucks to give, and you just don't want to die in prison. NightWatcher Aug 2018 #5

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Wow. You sure are mad at Gates for doing the right thing and spilling on Manafort. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #17

I heard people saying that on Fox News at the tire store TeamPooka Aug 2018 #20

We won't know how willing Manafort is to "keep his mouth shut" until some time in the future... PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #23

darned him! H2O Man Aug 2018 #32

Just another Republican. TeamPooka Aug 2018 #19

Gates is not evidence. He corroborates the evidence. Sneederbunk Aug 2018 #33

Sammy the Bull Gravano turned on John Gotti marylandblue Aug 2018 #34

You mean the guy helping Manafort launder and steal money, was dishonest? Johonny Aug 2018 #37