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Oneironaut

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36. That's the problem with all racketeering-like cases, if you think about it.

Reply to PoliticAverse (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:19 PM

Aug 2018

The star witnesses are usually criminals who “flipped.”

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Rick Gates admits extra-marital affair...paid with money embezzled from Manafort [View all] brooklynite Aug 2018 OP

Not your ideal star witness. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #1

His Personal Activities Are Irrelevant LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #2

I don't think I'd call stealing money from the defendant "irrelevant". A witness's criminal PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #6

Why believe any criminal informant? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #8

"Why believe any criminal informant?" - That's a good question. I wonder what the 12 jury members wi PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #10

Are you actually suggesting juries disregard criminal informants' testimony? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #11

Do you know what the word "ideal" means? To point out something has flaws is not to dismiss its PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #13

Well duh. Then what was the point of your post? Do YOU think he should not be believed? nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #16

I think the corroborating testimony of less flawed witnesses and actual physical evidence... PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #22

So you won't answer the question? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #24

I didn't suggest he wouldn't be ultimately believed by the jury. And as to my opinion on his... PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #25

Ah, but you apparently heard enough to lament that he is not the "ideal witness." SunSeeker Aug 2018 #26

Which, as we all can agree, he isn't. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #28

He's the ideal witness against Manafort, being his right hand man. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #30

Why believe him now? Because of a mountain of paperwork confirming his testimony, pnwmom Aug 2018 #9

Right! With the paper he is corroborated. Without it I doubt it. Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #31

Mueller wanted to interview all the choir boys in Manafort's circle of friends tavernier Aug 2018 #12

Diogenes would have given up quickly, I think. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #14

Manafort stole the money he had, from banks, countries. No honor among thieves. notdarkyet Aug 2018 #29

No informant is. No one who flips on a perp has a clean background. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #7

I know! gratuitous Aug 2018 #18

LOL SunSeeker Aug 2018 #27

Probably difficult to get a clean Republican star witness. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #35

That's the problem with all racketeering-like cases, if you think about it. Oneironaut Aug 2018 #36

Was that from a question from Manafort's lawyer? nt awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #3

Yes. And CNN reports it a bit differently, janx Aug 2018 #21

"Set a crook, to catch a crook". SharonAnn Aug 2018 #4

... when you're all out of fucks to give, and you just don't want to die in prison. NightWatcher Aug 2018 #5

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #15

Wow. You sure are mad at Gates for doing the right thing and spilling on Manafort. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #17

I heard people saying that on Fox News at the tire store TeamPooka Aug 2018 #20

We won't know how willing Manafort is to "keep his mouth shut" until some time in the future... PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #23

darned him! H2O Man Aug 2018 #32

Just another Republican. TeamPooka Aug 2018 #19

Gates is not evidence. He corroborates the evidence. Sneederbunk Aug 2018 #33

Sammy the Bull Gravano turned on John Gotti marylandblue Aug 2018 #34

You mean the guy helping Manafort launder and steal money, was dishonest? Johonny Aug 2018 #37