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FirstLight

(13,360 posts) Tue Dec 13, 2011, 04:33 AM Dec 2011

OWS' need to connect...and how? [View all]

I am a huge proponent of the Movement, believe me. It amazes me how many people are still holding the OWS'ers in contempt, Maybe I am naieve, but I thought this was about helping ALL of us?

Whether it is stratification in the workforce or society or what, there are more people than we know who are really thinking it is all a waste of time. The MSM has been hard at work making it more about the 'inconvenience' to the others who are just trying to live their lives.

Just tonight, went to the corner store for a pint, the guy there is moving to Portland...
I excitedly said, "Awesome! Occupy Portland rocks... those people are great." (because I have been watching the livestreams and the way they are working together, and respecting the process, and also because there are a few DU'ers here that are from there, and I adore them)

he said: with a cynical laugh... "THOSE people need to just go away...my girlfriend lives up there and she is warning me that they shut things down, they screw things up in traffic...they are a pain in the ass... I understand what they mean to do man, but they are just screwing it up for people who HAVE jobs because they don't WANT to work."

WTF!?
I was shocked and tried to be calm in defending the movement but let it go without knowing what to say next. I tried to say that we are changing the world so tu will cause inconvenience...he said peaceful protest is great...but it doesn't do anything but make it worse for the rest of us...blahblahblah

Are you guys hearing these comments from others? What do we say to remind folks we are ALL corporate slaves, whether we are in dire straights or not THIS month...next month it could be you...and it needs to CHANGE
How do we get the rest of our 99% to realize they are not as good off as they think they are?

...*sigh* late nights rants...let's see if you guys get what i mean... lol

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OWS' need to connect...and how? [View all] FirstLight Dec 2011 OP

"OWS tactics are hurting the message" FirstLight Dec 2011 #1

It's not a "meme," it's the facts. TheWraith Dec 2011 #2

It's a "même" reinforced by "the facts". After that it's all a matter of confirmation bias. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #5

That works the opposite way, too. TheWraith Dec 2011 #25

I thought that was implied. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #27

"The Facts" is a meme bigmonkey Dec 2011 #23

No, it's called objective reality. TheWraith Dec 2011 #26

The mere facts in the study you cite don't support your opinion as "fact". bigmonkey Dec 2011 #31

Practically anything that screws up traffic is worthy. dkf Dec 2011 #3

OWS IS connecting pinboy3niner Dec 2011 #4

Very good. Thanks! Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #33

very powerfull piece. Thanks for posting it. applegrove Dec 2011 #38

Your concern is duly noted. Edweird Dec 2011 #6

++. backscatter712 Dec 2011 #28

seriously? FirstLight Dec 2011 #7

Precisely why I usually just read these leftynyc Dec 2011 #8

Time is what the movement has on its side mmonk Dec 2011 #9

thanks FirstLight Dec 2011 #10

They recognize some problems by the symptoms mmonk Dec 2011 #14

Here's another one of my pie-in-the-sky ideas.... OneGrassRoot Dec 2011 #12

That would be nice and I share such a dream. mmonk Dec 2011 #15

hehe FirstLight Dec 2011 #18

Invite them to attend a local General Assembly. I can almost 100% guarantee coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #11

exactly FirstLight Dec 2011 #16

there was a story on the radio yesterday about how Occupy Portland closed down some port terminals renate Dec 2011 #13

Victories are seldom won without sacrifice and a willingness to fight for better. mmonk Dec 2011 #17

The protests at the docks are trying to point out the fact that dock workers JDPriestly Dec 2011 #20

This is a recipe for self-marginalization. bigmonkey Dec 2011 #24

Two points nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #32

No, when they're told to stay home for safety or health reasons, Remember Me Dec 2011 #37

When someone says that OWS is using the wrong tactics, just ask the person what tactics JDPriestly Dec 2011 #19

BEAUTIFULLY SAID!!!!! FirstLight Dec 2011 #21

+1 AntiFascist Dec 2011 #30

Need to narrow the focus to one issue NNN0LHI Dec 2011 #22

Part of this is the very conservative, elite driven, media. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #29

Do you really think the media controls how DUers think? randome Dec 2011 #34

Actually to a point yes nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #35

that and thought generally needs a sort of factual "canvas" to work upon themadstork Dec 2011 #43

Exactly nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #44

I think the OWS movement started out right mvd Dec 2011 #36

The civil rights movement got the same type of commentary...in the beginning. U4ikLefty Dec 2011 #39

thanks, good to hear FirstLight Dec 2011 #41

The great development here in Occupy LA U4ikLefty Dec 2011 #46

... FirstLight Dec 2011 #47

Not neccessarily a bad thing themadstork Dec 2011 #40

last sentence FirstLight Dec 2011 #42

I wonder about the same thing every day. themadstork Dec 2011 #45

.. mdmc Feb 2012 #48