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NurseJackie

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11. "The key to winning elections is getting more votes than one's opponent."

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:46 AM

Aug 2018

The key to winning elections is getting more votes than one's opponent.

Vermont-style politicians and Bronx-style campaigning don't play as well in the Midwest and in the "heartland" apparently. Of course we knew that already... but I guess it needed to be demonstrated again.

What I'm trying to say is that winning is always more important than losing, and half-a-loaf is more nourishing and filling than a plate full of pride and vanity being served-up for purity's sake.

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Populism: Why can't we use it? [View all] ProfessorPlum Aug 2018 OP

why? Almost always framed incorrectly beachbum bob Aug 2018 #1

But That Sold Didn't It ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #5

It didn't sell, it stole. MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #7

Got Enough People To Buy It, To Make It Close Enough... ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #19

It's 2018. We've had 2 years to acquaint ourselves with the dynamics of 2016 and yet .. JHan Aug 2018 #10

+1000 brer cat Aug 2018 #16

Yes, and Populists always need an enemy, because populism thrives on emotional angst. JHan Aug 2018 #23

That's Not What I Said ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #20

I also explained the noise surrounding the election and how our narratives become twisted.. JHan Aug 2018 #21

Not Arguing That ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #26

never said messaging was not important.. it is simply overstated. JHan Aug 2018 #30

the problem with all of trumps lies was hillary should have looked at him in the eyes and pointed beachbum bob Aug 2018 #17

I Wish She Had, Too ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #18

So you think that "Democratic establishment elite" are afraid of "corporate donors" ehrnst Aug 2018 #2

Populism is a horrific canard deceptively used to win elections. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #3

This... Wounded Bear Aug 2018 #4

The near fascist current Italian government is "populist"! Fucking media wordmasters are Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #13

+1000 ehrnst Aug 2018 #9

The candidates who win are those who the people want. George II Aug 2018 #6

When a candidate doesn't think that the population has the smarts or education ehrnst Aug 2018 #8

"The key to winning elections is getting more votes than one's opponent." NurseJackie Aug 2018 #11

Because populism is fraught with unintended consequences peggysue2 Aug 2018 #12

I don't think it is pie-in-the-sky to return to New Deal policies that work ProfessorPlum Aug 2018 #15

Populism is more than promising to "help" people. MineralMan Aug 2018 #14

Populism is how Millennial political power is going to be expressed. wonkwest Aug 2018 #22

I'm a millennial and I cannot relate to any of this. JHan Aug 2018 #24

Let me just throw out a stat to bolster my point wonkwest Aug 2018 #29

Actually as I recall it was 18-26... but I'll bite.. JHan Aug 2018 #33

Generalizations exist for a reason wonkwest Aug 2018 #38

Yes people were duped. folks get duped all the time. JHan Aug 2018 #40

You're assuming that the political philosophy of people remains static lapucelle Aug 2018 #51

Anyone who was 21+ will be out of that voting bloc by 2020. George II Aug 2018 #56

It surprised me too ProfessorPlum Aug 2018 #32

Like playing with wildfire. Populist leaders are rabblerousers Hortensis Aug 2018 #25

Shhhhh...we don't want to scare the moderates. HopeAgain Aug 2018 #27

You mean trying to help a candidate win a gubernatorial primary in Michigan who could never win Demsrule86 Aug 2018 #62

Because in populism there is an us and a them DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #28

As in real life ProfessorPlum Aug 2018 #34

Those are liberal not populist. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #35

FDR was accused of being a demogogue ProfessorPlum Aug 2018 #37

He was accused of a lot of things but he was a liberal who saved capitalism from itself. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #39

I'd be more than happy to support that again. ProfessorPlum Aug 2018 #41

Sure those are "US" policies, but.... George II Aug 2018 #42

Yes!! peggysue2 Aug 2018 #36

I was thinking good old fashioned demagoguery exboyfil Aug 2018 #31

It seems we've forgotten that the biggest populist movement in America was the KKK JHan Aug 2018 #43

+1 betsuni Aug 2018 #44

+10000 nt brer cat Aug 2018 #46

What you said, JHan Hekate Aug 2018 #61

The term has been tainted by too many authoritarians. VOX Aug 2018 #45

Populism is nationalism in a different guise. GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #47

Because it is always white supremacism dressed up as class consciousness Recursion Aug 2018 #48

Because. imo, populism is a sham. It's exploitative and stupid. Oneironaut Aug 2018 #49

I think most of you are confusing ProfessorPlum Aug 2018 #50

Well, there was Henry Wallace, Roosevelt's last Vice President, right? raging moderate Aug 2018 #54

Trump voters keep saying that Hillary Clinton had no plans. raging moderate Aug 2018 #58

Down Goes Socialism Gothmog Aug 2018 #52

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #53

I'm beginning to think the support of Our Revolution does more harm than good. George II Aug 2018 #57

Agreed-these two candidates opposed by Our Revolution are the face of the Democratic party Gothmog Aug 2018 #60

Because at its core it's inherently racist. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #55

WTF ProfessorPlum Aug 2018 #59

Bookmarking for further study. This one I wanna take some time with. calimary Aug 2018 #63