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19. The Irish ran into the same thing. And I remember visiting England in the late 70's,

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 05:40 PM

Aug 2018

telling a cab driver we were going to Ireland next.

He asked why we'd want to go there -- hadn't we heard about the Black Irish?

The Celts were said to be small and dark, and Ireland was invaded by the Moors from the South, and the Vikings from the North, so there is a variation in Ireland similar to that in Italy.

And here in America, at one time police vans were called "paddy wagons." Paddy was the nickname for the Irish, and the criminals were supposed to be Irish.

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How is it that all 4 of my Grandparents were considered non-white, but I'm considered white? [View all] louis c Aug 2018 OP

Got some of that Middle Eastern blood.... Historic NY Aug 2018 #1

My husband is of Italian & Sicilian ancestry. Dulcinea Aug 2018 #28

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Read the link. louis c Aug 2018 #5

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No that's quite wrong Loki Liesmith Aug 2018 #26

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The only appropriate response would have been. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #7

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I belong to the American Citizenship Tribe. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #12

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They have called me illegal multiple times. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #24

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I totally understand what you're saying. Shanti Mama Aug 2018 #17

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