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256. Congratulations for writing off 15 to 20% of the population, and ignoring the number of older

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Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:40 AM

Aug 2018

Americans who live in poverty.

This comment made by her is not just naivee and wrong, it is blatant age discrimination

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Ocasio-Cortez: House Democrats too old to understand income inequality [View all] John Gruff Aug 2018 OP

Getting less and less impressed with her mcar Aug 2018 #1

Ditto hlthe2b Aug 2018 #3

Me too. Has become quite full of herself..n/t monmouth4 Aug 2018 #34

She is an argument for the virtues of at least Hortensis Aug 2018 #128

She's going to get taken down a peg or two once she's in Congress BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #177

I was never impressed with her Gothmog Aug 2018 #13

I see the need for new faces, but... sarah FAILIN Aug 2018 #215

I earned $3.35 too in the early 90s for a short stretch. BlueWI Aug 2018 #242

+ struggle4progress Aug 2018 #19

Wow. She campaigns against Dems quite a bit. Not a good look. brush Aug 2018 #48

Yeah, they are all senile and ignorant. honest.abe Aug 2018 #2

How old is Bernie? John Gruff Aug 2018 #4

Isn't Bernie a millionaire? workinclasszero Aug 2018 #18

Yes. He was worth about $300-500K two years ago, now I think he's worth over $2M. George II Aug 2018 #77

He is now making in excess of a million a year grantcart Aug 2018 #100

Oh please.. whathehell Aug 2018 #106

No, that post is exactly the truth. Wwcd Aug 2018 #127

More word salad nonsense in defense of Sander's hyporcisy grantcart Aug 2018 #162

More knee-jerk Bernie bashiing bs whathehell Aug 2018 #164

Well that is a new height in intellectual cognitive dissonance. It is only "probably" because grantcart Aug 2018 #165

Multi millionaire. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #159

He's not a Democrat so I guess she's giving him a pass. oasis Aug 2018 #65

Older than Hillary by several years. nt Hekate Aug 2018 #196

Yet her mentor, Bernie is not exactly a spring chick, now is he? hlthe2b Aug 2018 #5

Neither was Ted Kennedy while we're at it kcr Aug 2018 #112

I'm 70 years old, sharp as a tack, and I'm HIGHLY offended! George II Aug 2018 #75

Ooops, here's Nancy Pelosi.. Not "too old.. " Cha Aug 2018 #124

Sorry, but most of our politicians are very rich old white men womanofthehills Aug 2018 #199

Being rich, white, old and male doesnt mean they are wrong or dont understand the issues. honest.abe Aug 2018 #210

Thank You, honest abe! Cha Aug 2018 #281

Her family moved to Westchester so she could go to a nice school. Her dad was R B Garr Aug 2018 #6

He wasn't just an architect, he owned his own architectural firm with a number of employees. George II Aug 2018 #79

Wow, that is elitist level, hardly from a position in life R B Garr Aug 2018 #153

As a older female I sure do know about income inequality. CatMor Aug 2018 #7

But you can't possibly DFW Aug 2018 #10

She never bothered to learn how far back the fight for equal pay for equal work goes CatMor Aug 2018 #12

It's the path of least resistance DFW Aug 2018 #45

+1 nt Skidmore Aug 2018 #16

Yes, CatMor sheshe2 Aug 2018 #148

There is much I didn't know about Harriet Tubman... CatMor Aug 2018 #155

Wow, just wow Phoenix61 Aug 2018 #8

This is not good......wish someone could talk to her...... a kennedy Aug 2018 #9

Susan Sarandon talks to OAC. comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #60

And Sarandon is old so what would she know?? lunasun Aug 2018 #188

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #11

It's an even bigger shame her opponent didn't bother to run. comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #20

Give it up. The more she critizes other Democrats, the more I dislike her. She sinkingfeeling Aug 2018 #14

My, my, my gratuitous Aug 2018 #15

WTF is wrong with her? greatauntoftriplets Aug 2018 #17

Good interview, she made some very good points. Autumn Aug 2018 #21

Derangement syndrome hurts all of us. theaocp Aug 2018 #25

The whole interview is about half an hour. I'm not in her state Autumn Aug 2018 #31

I'm young and I could craft a message to yet more young people involved in politics .. without.. JHan Aug 2018 #145

She didn't attack the party, she discussed the differences in the political Autumn Aug 2018 #151

The statement in the OP is: JHan Aug 2018 #173

The old Limousine Liberal insult, updated to out of touch "bought by corporate interests" elites. betsuni Aug 2018 #182

I watched the clip Madam Mossfern Aug 2018 #233

Everyone has an opinion, I gave you mine as an older person, Autumn Aug 2018 #237

You don't expect to see the "out of context quotes to make Democrats look bad" game at DU oberliner Aug 2018 #22

Seeing quite a bit of this lately... pecosbob Aug 2018 #33

Sad really, especially at a time when we need to stand united like never before. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #278

What context could make that quote okay? n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #40

She doesn't sound familiar with the Democratic platform. lapucelle Aug 2018 #110

That's putting it kindly. Cha Aug 2018 #126

K & R Insult the work of an entire generation.. Wwcd Aug 2018 #131

Constant division, attacking democrats workinclasszero Aug 2018 #23

Really dumb, dumb statement. lark Aug 2018 #24

You really should listen to the interview. The title is misleading. Autumn Aug 2018 #32

Ah the daily 'bash AOC' thread melman Aug 2018 #26

It's really the "quote AOC" thread, but I guess with her that IS pretty damaging to her image. Squinch Aug 2018 #30

Change is scary to people, so they look to discredit HopeAgain Aug 2018 #43

She needs to stop campaigning against Dems and do some research on the repugs... brush Aug 2018 #54

You mean HopeAgain Aug 2018 #57

Repugs would, IMO, be a more appropriate target. Yes. brush Aug 2018 #61

I think campaigning for ANY Democrat is fair game HopeAgain Aug 2018 #63

I'm with you in races where there is not sitting Dem incumbent. brush Aug 2018 #68

"Established".. that ol buzzword? Oh you mean that the Victorious Sharice Davids Cha Aug 2018 #263

"This young lady". OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #120

AOC "Discredits" herself by her Own Words.. No spinning will change that. Cha Aug 2018 #122

And, you Cannot Defend what she said.. only attempt Cha Aug 2018 #83

THAT is exactly correct! NurseJackie Aug 2018 #221

And, all their Cha Aug 2018 #222

"What plays in the Bronx, stays in the Bronx," apparently. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #223

Senator Duckworth is Cha Aug 2018 #276

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #246

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #218

Of course they are melman Aug 2018 #219

No they're not. Quoting her is not "bashing" her. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #220

Hubris...It May be Her Downfall dlk Aug 2018 #27

You do realize that "her downfall" equals a Repub victory in her district, yes? nt appal_jack Aug 2018 #95

You know how hubris works, yes? LuvLoogie Aug 2018 #113

She will win her election but she shouldn't be burning comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #118

I am so tired of people taking advantage of Democratic party infrastructure, and trashing it.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #28

Same reason Bernie flipped to a D. Wwcd Aug 2018 #134

That sucks. I can't help but wonder if this is an attempt by outsiders to destroy us from within. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #138

As long as Tad works for Bernie.. its pretty much what Tad does for a living. Wwcd Aug 2018 #142

Agreed Lulu KC Aug 2018 #253

I didn't realize income inequality was a new thing. RandySF Aug 2018 #29

It's not. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #97

Not nice to bash Democratic public figures for quotes without context pecosbob Aug 2018 #35

I believe it's against this forum's TOS PDittie Aug 2018 #205

Youthful enthusiasm awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #36

I know there have been polls here about the average age of DU members Tom Rinaldo Aug 2018 #37

Knowing that is isn't ok to bash old people has nothing to do with how old you are. kcr Aug 2018 #135

In this thread: People reacting to headlines instead of listening for context wonkwest Aug 2018 #38

And they will follow the newest, shiny object poster that wanders in here. nt Snotcicles Aug 2018 #42

It's the one thing that really bothers me about the Internet wonkwest Aug 2018 #51

Marijuana Contains "Alien DNA" From Outside Of Our Solar System, NASA Confirms G_j Aug 2018 #125

This is brilliant, thanks for sharing. wonkwest Aug 2018 #136

Thanks for your reasonable response. BlueWI Aug 2018 #198

You hit upon one of the major misunderstood things, I think wonkwest Aug 2018 #204

No, Obama did not experience school debt. betsuni Aug 2018 #209

He was around in the atmosphere and saw it in his peers wonkwest Aug 2018 #224

Well said. BlueWI Aug 2018 #241

Yah blackdove78 Aug 2018 #50

You need only look at time stamps to catch that. wonkwest Aug 2018 #53

Or blackdove78 Aug 2018 #55

Riiiight. n/t wonkwest Aug 2018 #58

actually, happens fairly often. mopinko Aug 2018 #140

Here's a quick question then wonkwest Aug 2018 #144

You didn't explain what she meant John Gruff Aug 2018 #74

Why bother? wonkwest Aug 2018 #102

Ahhh...what she said is nothing new. Every generation has felt the same way... brush Aug 2018 #167

When it comes to student debt and affordable housing? wonkwest Aug 2018 #206

You're kidding right? Many middle age people are still paying off student loans. brush Aug 2018 #212

I graduated from college in 1977. OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #217

"But sure. Condescend some more" Looks like you're Cha Aug 2018 #264

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #265

You "leave it". Cha Aug 2018 #266

"But sure. Condescend some more. It's the liberal thing to do nowadays, I guess." betsuni Aug 2018 #271

President Obama spoke about how long it took him and Michelle to pay off their student debt. lapucelle Aug 2018 #272

I watched the clip n/t Madam Mossfern Aug 2018 #234

Our Democratic governor is making the $15 minimum wage lapucelle Aug 2018 #273

This is just ignorant and bigoted lack of thinking. rogue emissary Aug 2018 #39

She would be wrong, if that were what she had said. Autumn Aug 2018 #67

That's what I heard and what PSA transcriped. rogue emissary Aug 2018 #71

Yes talking about the need for younger leadership and addressing Autumn Aug 2018 #80

unfortunatly she decide to attack older voters while kinda talking about getitng rogue emissary Aug 2018 #98

She attacked older voters? What part of the 30 minute interview was that? Autumn Aug 2018 #101

The voters who are supporting those "average age of Democrat is 65" are older voters. rogue emissary Aug 2018 #143

You are reading a lot into what she didn't say in her interview. Autumn Aug 2018 #149

She said their heyday was in the '90s. rogue emissary Aug 2018 #157

For me, I think what's happening.... GemDigger Aug 2018 #41

The importance of making friends in politics is too often overlooked comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #64

Weird because I've been so disappointed in young voters not knowing enough to vote... bettyellen Aug 2018 #44

Plus the fight she talks about started a long long time ago. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #90

Indeed.(nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #94

+1000 brer cat Aug 2018 #116

I get that some people don't grow up interested in politics... but I feel like there should be a bettyellen Aug 2018 #229

Seems to me the younger generation is just rejecting and changing KPN Aug 2018 #231

The thing is you DO need to participate to change the rules in politics-Doing the work is required. bettyellen Aug 2018 #232

They are participating. Just differently than KPN Aug 2018 #235

Participating means doing things, not sitting on the sidelines. You can't change something from the bettyellen Aug 2018 #236

+1 betsuni Aug 2018 #129

+1 nt PunkinPi Aug 2018 #227

Sounds like some folks are a little too sensitive thewhollytoast Aug 2018 #46

Us oldies grew up on real rock. Can't get too loud for us. Time to put the kids down for a nap. tonyt53 Aug 2018 #114

I'm old myself... pecosbob Aug 2018 #47

She's not wrong krawhitham Aug 2018 #49

A very misleading title. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #52

Your post is empty John Gruff Aug 2018 #72

First, welcome to DU. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #78

Why are so many against this young lady? pwb Aug 2018 #81

It is quite obvious, is it not? guillaumeb Aug 2018 #84

Who exactly are you accusing on this thread of being Russian Bots? sheshe2 Aug 2018 #139

Read the replies? You think these are all democrats? pwb Aug 2018 #152

I'm certainly not against her Madam Mossfern Aug 2018 #240

I has the exact same meaning as the title John Gruff Aug 2018 #92

We disagree. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #93

You don't seem to get why what she said is offensive. kcr Aug 2018 #109

It's the exact same meaning. Cha Aug 2018 #262

She is considerably far off on her average age dsc Aug 2018 #56

i think she's beginning to think she's a star before Thrill Aug 2018 #59

She is. The media is making her one, KPN Aug 2018 #230

Does she not realize that she will need allies when she takes the seat she has not yet won? RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #62

It's endemic to these new "Democrats" Danmel Aug 2018 #66

Remember when JFK ran/won by complaining about Democrats? delisen Aug 2018 #69

I think the unwritten mission of the OR gang is to tear apart the existing Democratic Party. honest.abe Aug 2018 #85

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #70

I see she's still fighting Democrats. When is she going to take on republicans, if ever? George II Aug 2018 #73

you're fighting a Democrat here bigtree Aug 2018 #82

AOC bashes herself with what she says.. and you Cha Aug 2018 #91

"She's defending herself"? She needs to travel to Kansas, Missouri, Michigan, etc.... George II Aug 2018 #99

Some Democrats are more equal than others wonkwest Aug 2018 #104

Wow. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #158

She attacked the Republican party today SkyDancer Aug 2018 #169

Viscous attack, not....I mean pretty bland and generalized.. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #171

The way I read it... OhioBlue Aug 2018 #197

She said Repub Jeff Landry told conservatives that he's worried that her message resonates wishstar Aug 2018 #207

Good question. The most important question of all. R B Garr Aug 2018 #168

Now that she's done with her endorsement tour, California fundraising, lapucelle Aug 2018 #216

Does this extend to Independents? ehrnst Aug 2018 #76

Or how bout Senate Democrats? How bout Old Independents? Wwcd Aug 2018 #123

She needs to learn to use better judgement, just because a beachbum bob Aug 2018 #86

She makes a good point. Let's make income inequality a big part of our message. jalan48 Aug 2018 #87

It has been for a long time. This isn't something new. wasupaloopa Aug 2018 #103

This woman is 28 years of age. Wage stagnation began during the Reagan Administration. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #88

The problem with this girl..... calguy Aug 2018 #89

Girl? wonkwest Aug 2018 #105

You got it wonkwest Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #195

"They" Don't See It, Rising Income Inequality? peggysue2 Aug 2018 #96

Great interview. Super sharp. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #107

Haahaa.....Haaaaaahaaaa And what's her political creds again? Wwcd Aug 2018 #108

Maybe she's too Hispanic to understand racism. milestogo Aug 2018 #111

She was doing so well randr Aug 2018 #115

This is, like, you know, another version of The Dems Have No Economic Message. betsuni Aug 2018 #117

Yeah, lots of buzzwords.. no gravitas. Cha Aug 2018 #121

How's THIS for House Democrats Understanding "Income Equality"? Cha Aug 2018 #119

But but you must not have listened to the interview!1! BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #181

Hell NO! but lapucelle did and she suggests AOC Cha Aug 2018 #184

If only teachers were as valued as pro sports stars. betsuni Aug 2018 #189

LOL.. If Only! I love Key & Cha Aug 2018 #191

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #130

I do not heaven05 Aug 2018 #132

That's not helping. gibraltar72 Aug 2018 #133

No, AOC is Not helping. Cha Aug 2018 #192

Some day you too will be elderly--and wiser. riversedge Aug 2018 #137

WTF, those of us north of 65 have been fighting income inequality Hamlette Aug 2018 #141

Who's giving her these talking points that insult age specific House Democrats??? Wwcd Aug 2018 #146

Justice Dems? Me. Aug 2018 #183

Our Revolution? Wwcd Aug 2018 #193

Well You Know Me. Aug 2018 #208

I believe it's her mentor, who is 76 years old. George II Aug 2018 #211

Oh... the Irony. Sparkly Aug 2018 #147

furbies and two vans. Eko Aug 2018 #150

Yeah. Her defenders are all, "but the context!" kcr Aug 2018 #154

There are very few people under 30 Eko Aug 2018 #156

No shit. Hey, Ms AOC, ..been there done that..got anymore earth shattering revelations? Wwcd Aug 2018 #161

Exactly. Reading her background and she is far more R B Garr Aug 2018 #160

More right than wrong aikoaiko Aug 2018 #163

NO AOC is WRONG. Cha Aug 2018 #185

I think we're looking at a one-term representative. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2018 #166

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Aug 2018 #186

So we're going to ignore the fact that she makes some good points Tatiana Aug 2018 #170

But Obama is 57, not that different from the age of 65 that AOC mentions. betsuni Aug 2018 #172

She said average age. Tatiana Aug 2018 #174

Yet again, people feeling the need to have to explain what she really means kcr Aug 2018 #178

Yeah, good point.. AOC always has to be explained by Cha Aug 2018 #190

exactly, "well, she wasn't talking about the 59 year old but the 60 year old" JI7 Aug 2018 #200

Less than a third of current RETIREES have a pension, and the % drops with spooky3 Aug 2018 #180

We're Calling out AOC because she's WRONG. Cha Aug 2018 #187

*sigh* ... But we need more Dems in the House. Older Than I Look Aug 2018 #175

Divide and conquer. It's known to be an effective strategy. gtar100 Aug 2018 #176

Fools rush in... agree, less and less impressed Thekaspervote Aug 2018 #179

I find her immature. madaboutharry Aug 2018 #194

i feel the same way about Sanders also JI7 Aug 2018 #201

income inequality or authoritarian oligarchy: your choice AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #202

For those people bashing AOC, did you actually listen to the clip instead of reacting to Yavin4 Aug 2018 #203

She mentioned their age just for fun John Gruff Aug 2018 #214

She used the average age to give context to her larger point Yavin4 Aug 2018 #225

I'm sure the 65+ are aware of income inequality John Gruff Aug 2018 #243

I don't really think that they are truly aware of it. Yavin4 Aug 2018 #267

Her comment is STILL ageist. kcr Aug 2018 #269

Her comment at best was baseless, "may have" isn't something to be used given the context ... uponit7771 Aug 2018 #247

"institutional lack of empathy for the poor and working class." betsuni Aug 2018 #249

On the whole, our elected leaders care more about campaign donors than anyone else. Yavin4 Aug 2018 #268

They spend time seeking donations because they have to, not because they want to. betsuni Aug 2018 #270

He's smearing our Dem Leaders.. Cha Aug 2018 #275

Offensive and wrong! betsuni Aug 2018 #277

You're so Wrong, Yavin.. That's a terrible Cha Aug 2018 #274

I love last night's results Gothmog Aug 2018 #213

Is that another way of saying "too rich?" Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #226

So she means Bernie too, right?? Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #228

I wonder. I hope. It's... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #238

This doesn't endear her to people over 50. zanana1 Aug 2018 #239

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #244

Someone needs to knock her down a peg or two and scardycat Aug 2018 #245

This sounds like "Democrats are for the 1%" type of comment that all these peoples uponit7771 Aug 2018 #248

Have never felt the established members in house felt my pain dembotoz Aug 2018 #250

Right now the 2009 movie where all the Star Trek characters are young is on TV, I'm watching. betsuni Aug 2018 #251

She's blowing it Lulu KC Aug 2018 #252

Age Discrimination is Very Real and Also Just as Illegal as Race Discrimination. dlk Aug 2018 #254

Though she does make some good points in rest of interview Lulu KC Aug 2018 #255

Congratulations for writing off 15 to 20% of the population, and ignoring the number of older still_one Aug 2018 #256

She's going after the 26% of young people who say they might actually vote leftofcool Aug 2018 #258

Looks that way still_one Aug 2018 #259

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #257

A divider, certainly not a uniter. democratisphere Aug 2018 #260

I think working for 45 years+ with wage inequality may help you to understand it. 33taw Aug 2018 #261

She's a novice not skilled in the ways of political weaselry. I get what she means Vinca Aug 2018 #279

I wonder how much of this is Fake russian propaganda.. perhaps taking things out of context. lancelyons Aug 2018 #280