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JCanete

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57. becuase that's how you've personally decided to define it. That's pretty weak too.

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 07:42 AM

Aug 2018

Can you or can you not be an outsider even if you have gained purchase into that world? I don't really care if you want to call it insider or click, or establishment...that's semantics that you apparently want to be hung up on, but there IS an establishment way of doing things. There is a way politics have been done and the financing of those politics, and there is a consensus among most of leadership, because they are there by virtue of the status-quo in place, that the system should be defended rather than uprooted.

That is generally what's meant by "establishment," and aside from these kinds of games, I'm pretty sure this is how most people understand the meaning.

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Bernie Sanders on MSNBC up NOW 8:30 est [View all] oasis Aug 2018 OP

Bernie the independent blue cat Aug 2018 #1

i did same thing as you did. turned to CNN trueblue2007 Aug 2018 #28

I screamed at the TV wryter2000 Aug 2018 #78

He also won his election...n/t monmouth4 Aug 2018 #2

I think his primary is today. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #5

Yes, on the Democratic ticket which he will turn down Cha Aug 2018 #20

Cha, why do you keep repeating this? It makes no sense. A democrat runs against him in the primary. JCanete Aug 2018 #46

Why does it bother you when it's repeated? blue cat Aug 2018 #52

the lie is that this is to prevent democrats from running agains thim. They can in the primary JCanete Aug 2018 #54

"but that's just oh so sad when those of us at DU hold onto something so easily refutable just betsuni Aug 2018 #53

what you got? I have a feeling just emogies. JCanete Aug 2018 #55

I have facts. betsuni Aug 2018 #56

well so long as you keep them to yourself I guess you can't be embarassed by them. nt JCanete Aug 2018 #58

... betsuni Aug 2018 #59

So BS is Switching to a Dem for 5 minutes to keep a repub from winning in Cha Aug 2018 #88

I believe that is the case Cha yes, thank you for acknowledging it. This gives dems an opporutinty JCanete Aug 2018 #91

So big of BS Not to want to split the vote for himself. Cha Aug 2018 #92

uh...okay. My point isn't to try to make him a hero because of this. I'm unfortunately JCanete Aug 2018 #95

Once again, Bernie reminds us that it all has to be about him Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #3

. Sparkly Aug 2018 #6

+++ sheshe2 Aug 2018 #31

+1000! nt R B Garr Aug 2018 #44

Just turned the TV on, but I think he just said he wouldn't accept the nomination Rustynaerduwell Aug 2018 #4

Maybe he isn't running while pushing 80? nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2018 #7

I consider not accepting Dem nom as "Breaking News". oasis Aug 2018 #10

If he said that, that means he is saying he won't run in 2020, and the reason I say that because he still_one Aug 2018 #11

Oh, the irony... Sparkly Aug 2018 #13

no doubt still_one Aug 2018 #16

Maybe all the love from the Democratic Party has changed his mind. Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2018 #39

If he runs as an independent he knows he will lose, and if he tries the same thing he did in 2016, still_one Aug 2018 #41

Who Says It Would Be Offered To Him Me. Aug 2018 #12

That was my reaction.. Cha Aug 2018 #17

Aloha pehea ʻoe Cha Me. Aug 2018 #25

I'm good, Me.. you Good? Bonus.. Cha Aug 2018 #34

kaʻu mea e hana maikai Cha, Thank You Me. Aug 2018 #37

Exactly still_one Aug 2018 #42

That's not what he said. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #19

So apparently he's only leaving open the possibility of running as a spoiler. n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #40

Bernie bristled when Velshi reported Nate Silvers' tweet oasis Aug 2018 #8

Why is he offended? By every definition, Bernie is as 'establishment' as it gets Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #9

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #14

The good news is he won't accept the Democratic nomination. Need oasis Aug 2018 #15

If That Means Rigging Primaries To Win Me. Aug 2018 #24

hehe what? By every definition you say? I guess by every definition you yourself concoct. JCanete Aug 2018 #48

What does THAT mean? betsuni Aug 2018 #51

becuase that's how you've personally decided to define it. That's pretty weak too. JCanete Aug 2018 #57

personally...weak...gained purchase into that world...establishment...hung up on... betsuni Aug 2018 #60

okay...have fun. Feel free to have the last emogie. nt JCanete Aug 2018 #61

Thank you ever so! betsuni Aug 2018 #63

"establishment" "neoliberal" "corporate" "big money" joshcryer Aug 2018 #50

BS needs to look in Cha Aug 2018 #18

I wonder why BS wasn't on TV last week? lapucelle Aug 2018 #21

Ha! Good question, lapucelle.. maybe Cha Aug 2018 #23

BS isn't faring so well.. Cha Aug 2018 #45

Bernie looked uncomfortable throughout the interview. Maybe he oasis Aug 2018 #26

I just read this on a twitter feed.. did you hear that? Cha Aug 2018 #27

Looking good for Dems in November. MSM should only interview oasis Aug 2018 #32

How candidates endorsed by selected people and groups have fared in 2018.. Cha Aug 2018 #35

Biden seems to have the Midas Touch. Hopefully MSM will oasis Aug 2018 #38

I have no hope for M$$$$M.. they have a Cha Aug 2018 #43

He would have been on his guard, Ali Velshi is a really intelligent interviewer, not just asking OnDoutside Aug 2018 #49

Velshi doesn't worship Bernie unlike Chris Hayes. comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #79

+1 OnDoutside Aug 2018 #80

I've been a Democrat since the early 1970s, it's just fine to me! George II Aug 2018 #22

Democrats worked hard for decades against powerful GOP foes oasis Aug 2018 #30

I was hoping he was on to announce this: Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #29

Warren si. Bernie no. nt oasis Aug 2018 #33

NO. Cha Aug 2018 #36

silly list, or rather, silly use of it. JCanete Aug 2018 #47

Thanks for admitting that wins aren't important R B Garr Aug 2018 #75

Garr, that's also silly. There's the primary and then there's the GE. I'm quite capable of making JCanete Aug 2018 #82

We know what happened in the GE. We know that the GOP loves to pit R B Garr Aug 2018 #83

What we don't know, because you have no evidence to support the idea, is that having a JCanete Aug 2018 #84

You really need to read the Mueller indictments. That endeavor will provide R B Garr Aug 2018 #85

No I don't, you really need to point to me where the Mueller indictments prove that the primaries JCanete Aug 2018 #86

LOL, the Mueller indictment, current news, pick any R B Garr Aug 2018 #87

These folks only care about 2 things... disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #76

"silly list, or rather, silly use of it." Look in the mirror Before Cha Aug 2018 #89

Okay. Made a silly face....looked silly. Back on topic, what point are you trying to make with JCanete Aug 2018 #93

Check your mirror. Cha Aug 2018 #94

Sorry but I have to laugh SkyDancer Aug 2018 #62

... LexVegas Aug 2018 #64

Awww SkyDancer Aug 2018 #65

Democrats have been working for the poor, the elderly, the sick and most marginalized in society. betsuni Aug 2018 #66

I don't know SkyDancer Aug 2018 #67

You seem to know them better than I do. betsuni Aug 2018 #68

Thanks for admitting SkyDancer Aug 2018 #69

Yes, you're obviously more "in the know" about "Right Wing Twitter"! betsuni Aug 2018 #70

Tell us SkyDancer Aug 2018 #71

How do you know I don't know anything about Republicans? betsuni Aug 2018 #72

Sigh SkyDancer Aug 2018 #73

Stop dancing? betsuni Aug 2018 #74

Check again. Anything that contributes to the GOP in R B Garr Aug 2018 #81

Tell that to BS Cha Aug 2018 #90

Truth. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #77