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48. Because DNA testing isn't the magic answer ancestry.com
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 03:31 PM
Aug 2018

commercials seem to imply it is. There isn't AFAIK any specific "Native American" (or African or European or whatever) gene: what the tests are saying is that the sample shows patterns that occur most commonly in populations tested in specific areas. And that assumes that those groups are genetically homogenous. When it comes to sampling Native American DNA there are a lot of issues: some groups have intermarried with their neighbors too much, some do not want to provide research samples, etc. The article cited about states that 23&me's Native American reference pool is based on peoples from the Southwest US and Central America: how does that relate to Native American populations from the East Coast, where Warren's ancestors may have come from? Even then, after a few generations of splitting and recombining genes there may not be enough distinctive segments left from the original Native American ancestor to say anything definite.

IIRC, Warren has only claimed a family tradition that one of her ancestors was Native American, a g-g-g-grandparent. It may be true, it may be that her grandmother -like mine - wasn't going to let facts get in the way of a good story.

(I got mine tested. It was mostly what I expected - Northeast European with dabs of German/French [23&Me sticks them together], and Scandinavian - and with a totally unexpected 1% from the British Isles, which as far as I'm concerned is noise)

She would be giving in to the bullies ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #1
She would just be accused of submitting someone else's DNA or presenting falsified report. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #45
Right, because releasing his birth certificate certainly stopped all the "birther" conspiracy talk hlthe2b Aug 2018 #2
+1 demigoddess Aug 2018 #4
Exactly!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #38
Yep. hunter Aug 2018 #62
If I am right Soxfan58 Aug 2018 #3
Perhaps she has had such a test done and the results weren't compelling. stopbush Aug 2018 #5
Exactly bluescribbler Aug 2018 #34
Right d_r Aug 2018 #51
Because regardless of the results - those insults will continue. Look at Trump and the Birthers. salin Aug 2018 #6
Because it's a spurious accusation gratuitous Aug 2018 #7
DNA may not show her Native American ancestry csziggy Aug 2018 #8
I have a friend who has traced his lineage -- on both sides -- back five or six generations. rsdsharp Aug 2018 #15
my biological father was Dutch and my DNA shows English, too n/t Blaukraut Aug 2018 #23
Has he considered that his ancestors could have moved from England? csziggy Aug 2018 #28
Old saying from when I grew up. Scruffy1 Aug 2018 #31
To try to get a clue about one of my brick walls in my genealogy csziggy Aug 2018 #44
I am legally 1/8 Cherokee. It's verified by a long tribal process. displacedtexan Aug 2018 #35
Exactly! 2naSalit Aug 2018 #57
Yes. My childhood was like Sen. Warren's. Credible NA heritage. nolabear Aug 2018 #43
Sounds similar shanti Aug 2018 #63
isn't it interesting that the descendents of the original inhabitants of this country are the niyad Aug 2018 #9
Likely because the results won't do her any favors. Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #10
I recently read about the Lumbee Retrograde Aug 2018 #55
There would be a conspiracy around the DNA test or not enough native blood lunasun Aug 2018 #11
Interesting; I had not seen that article. Thanks. Oops-- spooky3 Aug 2018 #21
There is a problem testing for Native American dna. Please read the article below. Very informative minoan Aug 2018 #12
Good info Bradshaw3 Aug 2018 #30
Would you like to be tested to prove you are caucasian? redstatebluegirl Aug 2018 #13
I agree with other replies. Also, spooky3 Aug 2018 #14
I agree but... lame54 Aug 2018 #18
And if the test doesn't go her way? lame54 Aug 2018 #16
All my life, my parents told me that I was part Native American on my father's side. Lisa0825 Aug 2018 #17
If you had siblings who were tested they might have gotten different results. pnwmom Aug 2018 #52
If your question is anything other than "Why the fuck is this even an issue"... TygrBright Aug 2018 #19
Right on. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #24
This flotsam Aug 2018 #20
Must be bored today. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #22
Because it's a lose lose proposition Blaukraut Aug 2018 #25
My understanding of this issue gibraltar72 Aug 2018 #26
Why should she? That's intrusive and she is under no obligation to prove her heritage.... George II Aug 2018 #27
How many other candidates? Barack Obama. Plus anybody running against an anti-Semite ... Hekate Aug 2018 #40
Did you ever read the kid's book, "If you give a mouse a cookie"? FSogol Aug 2018 #29
cool story bro ! stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #32
A DNA test would not necessarily prove yes or no on her heritage. yellerpup Aug 2018 #33
You could have parents who are both half Italian Rustynaerduwell Aug 2018 #36
Fuck Republicans. Stop playing their stupid games. Call the media out on it. Yavin4 Aug 2018 #37
+100% and then some!!! oasis Aug 2018 #50
Like Obama was supposed to produce his birth certificate? It is an outrageous demand... Hekate Aug 2018 #39
Because she's not culturally Native American at all and the whole thing was a bad idea Recursion Aug 2018 #41
a) It's HER business not our b) caving into bullies is wrong & c) DNA for ANY ethnicity... WePurrsevere Aug 2018 #42
SAFE DEM DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #46
The tests aren't accurate for smaller percents of racial groups, and she was only claiming pnwmom Aug 2018 #47
Because DNA testing isn't the magic answer ancestry.com Retrograde Aug 2018 #48
I grew up hearing that I had cherokee and black foot in my family heritage. honeylady Aug 2018 #49
Are you serious? jcgoldie Aug 2018 #53
That's the fundamental flaw in your premise. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #54
+ a gazillion Retrograde Aug 2018 #58
President Obama publicized his birth certificate and look how arthritisR_US Aug 2018 #56
The Cherokee Nation wants a paper trail to prove relation to someone on the Dawes Commission Roll tirebiter Aug 2018 #59
Maybe because she didn't claim to be Native American. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2018 #60
Probably because she figured out her ancestors were lying to her MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #61
Warren's clame to Native American ancestry. Arkansaw Aug 2018 #64
Thanks, and welcome to posting (I see you've been spooky3 Aug 2018 #67
A couple of my ancestors had the Mormons baptizing imaginary dead people. hunter Aug 2018 #65
She's white. Everyone knows...including her. nt LexVegas Aug 2018 #66
Warren has probably realized by now that being NA Raine Aug 2018 #68
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