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radical noodle

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42. Here's the thing

Thu Aug 16, 2018, 12:37 AM

Aug 2018

It's the Republicans and divisive troublemakers who want to attach the socialism label to us. There's no need to help them with that. Propose any good program that helps people with health care or anything else and they'll be more than happy to call us socialists. Don't fall for it.

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POLL: Democrats More Positive About Socialism Than Capitalism [View all] SkyDancer Aug 2018 OP

sounds like another divisive bullshit poll spanone Aug 2018 #1

It's a Gallup poll. SkyDancer Aug 2018 #2

yep spanone Aug 2018 #4

Still not credible. The questions and the context in Hortensis Aug 2018 #10

+ a million.. " I doubt one in five could give even a somewhat accurate definition of socialism" Wwcd Aug 2018 #12

Wonder what a managing authority would consider Hortensis Aug 2018 #17

Yup. Socialism strips away individual power. We become a vulnerable group at the mercy of a leader. Wwcd Aug 2018 #19

Socialism can take various forms, of course. There never Hortensis Aug 2018 #64

Yeah, weird that if you focused on the bad ways something has been implemented JCanete Aug 2018 #20

Yep. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #43

The new meaning of "socialism" as Gallup defines it lapucelle Aug 2018 #52

admitted we didn't have the votes for single payer? You realize we didnt' get a singlre republican JCanete Aug 2018 #56

"Too damn expensive" SkyDancer Aug 2018 #60

"That is a Republican & Libertarian talking point against single payer health care." disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #65

Gallup suggest it's a function of the current "definition" of socialism. lapucelle Aug 2018 #51

Gallup addresses that issue in its analysis. lapucelle Aug 2018 #49

I assume you are not saying Socialism means people "no longer owning their own homes" etc? lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #75

Gallup's analysis is available on line. lapucelle Aug 2018 #50

The Gallup headline is accurate, but narratives are being spun lapucelle Aug 2018 #48

Your chart at the bottom shows that the opinions have barely budged in 8 years: George II Aug 2018 #87

lol stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #3

... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #5

Hey sheshe2 Aug 2018 #31

My very Dem 84 year old parents BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #6

The negative connotations are the result of constant propaganda from the right FiveGoodMen Aug 2018 #9

If we can't make people like the word "socialism" then we can kiss Democracy goodbye? Squinch Aug 2018 #14

We can't stop propaganda fescuerescue Aug 2018 #44

Frankly... sheshe2 Aug 2018 #53

I'd go further SkyDancer Aug 2018 #61

Of course we see that. fescuerescue Aug 2018 #82

When the corporate media stops the rightwing framing of it.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #66

Haa..I doubt the legitimacy of this entire sales pitch for normalizing socialism. Wwcd Aug 2018 #7

I bet Harvard Harris would do that poll! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #32

lol.. I know a certain poll killed your narrative & was disheartening.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #67

There are general reliability and validity problems with the Harvard Harris poll, lapucelle Aug 2018 #70

Goodness.. 238 pgs.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #74

Lol sheshe2 Aug 2018 #79

lmao... disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #80

I just posted some findings from the most recent Harvard Harris CAPS poll. lapucelle Aug 2018 #71

Thank you, lapucelle. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #72

Look--Squirrel! ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #8

"Here, lemme distract you while the country's driven over the cliff" Wwcd Aug 2018 #11

Look! We can talk and chew bubble gum! SkyDancer Aug 2018 #23

. ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #30

.... SkyDancer Aug 2018 #63

Actually you don't really chew bubble gum sheshe2 Aug 2018 #34

Bazinga! George II Aug 2018 #38

Yes let's never have change SkyDancer Aug 2018 #62

Exactly where did I say this? sheshe2 Aug 2018 #77

Yep Me. Aug 2018 #73

Hmmm... another brandy new poster who has mastered the art of creating threads that cause Squinch Aug 2018 #13

Warm. Warm. Getting warmer. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #16

Wait... you don't mean... it can't possibly be... Squinch Aug 2018 #18

well... sheshe2 Aug 2018 #36

Careful driving there dear, one false move and you just may wind up in a pinebox! George II Aug 2018 #39

Lol! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #41

Yes it's all a conspiracy! SkyDancer Aug 2018 #24

Thanks for confirming! Squinch Aug 2018 #25

I'm always a little curious when there is a link to a story about the data, lapucelle Aug 2018 #54

Assuming it truly IS a "brandy new poster". Wanna bet a cheese sandwich? George II Aug 2018 #58

Do we know who paid for this poll ? OnDoutside Aug 2018 #15

Socialism would mean the state owns business tirebiter Aug 2018 #21

This poll is hilarious! OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #22

Bazinga! George II Aug 2018 #40

I find myself wondering if this isn't another Russian-engineered dirty trick. calimary Aug 2018 #26

This poster has been flogging similar since since I first noticed them. Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #28

Tin foil Stinky SkyDancer Aug 2018 #83

This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Bullshit Not Democratic Gathering Place Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #27

And what I posted is SkyDancer Aug 2018 #84

"Socialism" has pretty much become the right's go-to thing for anything they don't like ck4829 Aug 2018 #29

im favorable toward both to some extent. David__77 Aug 2018 #33

... LexVegas Aug 2018 #35

Unless I missed it, I see that the poll analysis has no definitions of "socialism" or "capitalism".. George II Aug 2018 #37

I think that's true, but I don't think it matters fescuerescue Aug 2018 #45

I quote. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #46

Here's the thing radical noodle Aug 2018 #42

Interesting and hopeful to see if this maintains Devil Child Aug 2018 #47

Gallup's analysis includes the following. lapucelle Aug 2018 #55

In other words, when people say "Democratic Socialists," they really mean "Social Democrats"... regnaD kciN Aug 2018 #57

Those are other words, but they are neither mine nor Gallup's. lapucelle Aug 2018 #69

Although I consider myself a democratic socialist, rogerashton Aug 2018 #59

K&R.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #68

Yup SkyDancer Aug 2018 #85

That's very interesting considering everyone from Manchin to Sanders is a blatant capitalist. nt NCTraveler Aug 2018 #76

Gracious. I don't think this thread went the way you wanted it to. Thoughts and prayers. Squinch Aug 2018 #78

It went just fine. Thanks for the kick! Bless your heart. SkyDancer Aug 2018 #86

Socialist-democrats of america heaven05 Aug 2018 #81