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heaven05

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233. "Actually people are attacking a general election democrat"

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:11 AM

Aug 2018

because that socialist-democrat of a minor faction of the Democratic Party is attacking other Democrats? Who by the way are tried and true members of the Democratic Party and whose attacks on other Democrats are designed and executed to puff up just one minor faction with minor leaders? And what I GET is that they are residing in our Democratic Party big tent using the same policies of the Democratic Party, proposed or otherwise, dressed up as their new policies? I get it.

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Ocasio-Cortez defends banning press from event: We wanted 'residents to feel safe' [View all] Uncle Joe Aug 2018 OP

Yeah, got to keep them "safe" from the press -- the "enemy of the people," as some believe. pnwmom Aug 2018 #1

Well for victims of abuse, human trafficking and immigrants, the ability to practice their Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #8

Like I said, she can have her private listening sessions.She just can't call the PUBLIC pnwmom Aug 2018 #27

So true... good for AOC in recognizing that. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #101

Call it what you want but there is nothing wrong with having a constituent only town hall. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #24

Some members of the press live there and are her constituents. She excluded them and falsely billed pnwmom Aug 2018 #28

Oh please. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #31

The Bronx flyer: George II Aug 2018 #241

oh, please, what? heaven05 Aug 2018 #249

The phrase "Town Hall" does seem to connote "all are welcome" DeltaLitProf Aug 2018 #111

Two different events. It looked like a trend, which might be why the local paper got alarmed. pnwmom Aug 2018 #117

FFS, if a GOPer used this BS excuse we would laugh at them. It was a stupid decision! nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #41

Makes sense to me. Sophia4 Aug 2018 #201

She doesn't have constituents. She's not in office. N/T lapucelle Aug 2018 #223

Precisely. Now, THIS guy has constituents and apparently he doesn't bar the press: George II Aug 2018 #244

Her communications director Corbin Trent should not have shut the press out lapucelle Aug 2018 #250

The Facebook invitation said it was a public event lapucelle Aug 2018 #258

Ahh, she is not elected yet. But nice try. nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #229

Right on... boom!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #102

So you think ICE is going to raid her events? R B Garr Aug 2018 #164

Closed to the press or not, ICE can still get in. Here's a town hall where people look safe: George II Aug 2018 #215

The primary's over, George. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2018 #293

It actually ended almost two months ago. But Congressman Joseph Crowley is still..... George II Aug 2018 #294

Oh, so this is a "teachable moment"? Act_of_Reparation Aug 2018 #297

Call it what you want. George II Aug 2018 #298

AOC is not an elected official. She doesn't have constituents. It was a public campaign event. N/T lapucelle Aug 2018 #253

Press coverage can have a chillig effect wellst0nev0ter Aug 2018 #38

Simple solution: have a closed event and don't bill it as open to the public. Don't send the message pnwmom Aug 2018 #56

If it's open to constituents, it's open to the public wellst0nev0ter Aug 2018 #82

The Queens newspaper's reporters are constituents, reporting to other constituents. pnwmom Aug 2018 #87

Yup yup, makes perfect sense... some just pretend not to get it. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #154

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I didn't say they have to. But if they want to call it PUBLIC, they need to include the press. pnwmom Aug 2018 #208

Yup. Just call it a PRIVATE forum for residents of her district. Don't call it a public event. LBM20 Aug 2018 #257

She needed to call it private, but the reporters from Queens are residents of her district. pnwmom Aug 2018 #271

um okay. JHan Aug 2018 #2

Most of us here knew that. pwb Aug 2018 #3

That doesn't mean she is infallible. nycbos Aug 2018 #26

Something wrong here empedocles Aug 2018 #4

What would that be empedocles? Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #7

Hmmmm empedocles Aug 2018 #11

Here is a good counter argument as to why Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #12

That UG cite is a policy argument. I understand Progressive accumulated frustrations. empedocles Aug 2018 #70

The news media all but ignored Bernie until they couldn't Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #76

Various well intentioned policy debates are important, empedocles Aug 2018 #211

perhaps she could let this issue fade away nt msongs Aug 2018 #5

Indefensible SCantiGOP Aug 2018 #6

Perhaps but for the vulnerable groups cited in particular trusting Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #9

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #14

I don't think it is meant as a slam to the press, or journalism in general. FirstLight Aug 2018 #10

If the press just wanted to cover it like trumps rallies with no questions? pwb Aug 2018 #13

Yup, Alexandria's progressive agenda has obviously hit a nerve. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #112

what's hit a nerve heaven05 Aug 2018 #226

Oh so it has nothing to do with her banning the press? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #265

Hate groups have been especially predominant with Trump in power Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #15

true, I was not implying they were like that at all, just the slippery slope I guess FirstLight Aug 2018 #16

I hear you FirstLight Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #18

Recommended! H2O Man Aug 2018 #17

We have identified the enemy and he is us? pwb Aug 2018 #19

Seriously, too many Dem bashers here. Onyrleft Aug 2018 #30

You are calling out members/Democrats of this board Dem bashers? nt sheshe2 Aug 2018 #37

Is it OK to suggest that once a candidate wins the primary, Onyrleft Aug 2018 #77

That doesn't mean we support everything they do, even when they make a serious mistake. pnwmom Aug 2018 #94

hmmm sheshe2 Aug 2018 #97

Sigh. This isn't hard to retain, but the associations R B Garr Aug 2018 #123

here George II Aug 2018 #33

They are a hoot. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #20

Yes they are pecosbob Aug 2018 #25

Maybe some people attended would not want to be in media photos or videos. earthshine Aug 2018 #21

Then it should have been a private closed forum. Not announced as Public Wwcd Aug 2018 #36

The names of people attending are posted on her Facebook page. brer cat Aug 2018 #44

I doubt that ALL the names are listed. nt earthshine Aug 2018 #49

We can hope the SOME who were listed were NONE of these: brer cat Aug 2018 #62

So, she made a mistake. What's your point? Why bother with your lame accusations? earthshine Aug 2018 #74

I made no accusations. brer cat Aug 2018 #78

You accuse her of using pretzyl logic. I accuse you of making irrelevant statements. earthshine Aug 2018 #84

I will pick one of the groups of victims listed... sheshe2 Aug 2018 #99

But attendees were posting photos on Twitter and other social media. pnwmom Aug 2018 #88

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Safe from public exposure, these were and are vulnerable groups Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #23

What was discussed at the public forum? Wwcd Aug 2018 #46

Hmm.... Adrahil Aug 2018 #29

This subject has been thoroughly discussed already. Wwcd Aug 2018 #32

So the only thing Alexandria needed to do was call the event private versus public Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #34

Sounds simple right? 1st Amendment. #WeAreAllThePress Wwcd Aug 2018 #39

Regarding the 1st Amendment in this case it came down to the judgement of speech vs press Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #43

Wow. OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #48

Me Too, OilemFirchen. WOW. It doesn't say "either/or" Wwcd Aug 2018 #51

It's BOTH but speech and press are two separate entities protected by the same Amendment. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #53

At the same time. OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #57

Of "making a law" Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #65

No law was broken. OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #67

Again according to Alexandria's defense Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #71

Bashers are gonna bash... it's what they do. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #130

Yes BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #272

Yes, irony in the extreme... just imagine... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #275

What about fox? That is mostly opinion, not news. pwb Aug 2018 #45

What does it matter? It was a Public Event. Wwcd Aug 2018 #47

Got that right... who needs em! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #276

Laughable to defend this just because you like her style and emphasis Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #35

But to keep it in perspective... meadowlander Aug 2018 #122

No, this a completely inaccurate statement mountain grammy Aug 2018 #237

There are no First Amendment issues in play, J_William_Ryan Aug 2018 #40

Finally, some sanity! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #105

"currently a private citizen" heaven05 Aug 2018 #222

it's a real creative defense though.. JHan Aug 2018 #245

lol heaven05 Aug 2018 #247

And yet she said in her flyer that she was "listening to the concerns.... George II Aug 2018 #246

Is this why the names of people attending are listed on her Facebook page? brer cat Aug 2018 #42

BINGO. Thank you. If she is serious about sheltering the id's of attendees, then Wwcd Aug 2018 #50

Again, it is obvious that not ALL the names are listed. earthshine Aug 2018 #60

So sheshe2 Aug 2018 #116

The number of posts attacking democrats on DU are surpassing those attacking republicans Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #52

Yup, yup... welcome to Bizarro World!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #113

OMG! Remember when that one guy said that the Democrats were the "party of the one-percent"? NurseJackie Aug 2018 #224

Yep mcar Aug 2018 #234

Dear Pretzel Logicians, OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #54

post 42 says she listed the names of those attending on facebook JI7 Aug 2018 #55

I saw that. OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #58

Especially if one is trying to remain private. That's a rather serious breech of trust.. Wwcd Aug 2018 #63

So it wasn't about protecting the ID's of attendees. Then What Was The Reason?! Wwcd Aug 2018 #61

. stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #59

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #64

"Instead of an open honest Democrat" Yup. Wwcd Aug 2018 #72

Is there a reason people keep attacking general election democrats in the middle of a midterm cycle? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #75

Questioning behavior is appropriate. Wwcd Aug 2018 #121

We know the reason. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #277

Contrived after-the-fact. When this "excuse" is examined as part of the whole... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #66

Actually it was a part of the initial announcement. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #69

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #118

That is exactly what is happening. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #119

Nobody is attacking her. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #124

Of course they are melman Aug 2018 #128

No she's not. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #129

. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #187

I know, right? NurseJackie Aug 2018 #225

It's getting ridiculous... I will never understand it. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #228

Doubling down? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2018 #68

No. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #73

Yes, thank you! mountain grammy Aug 2018 #79

I agree mountain grammy. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #80

And to you, Uncle Joe. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #83

She is running for a public office. RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #92

Every negative thread of AOC on DU Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #81

... Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #85

The shark feeding frenzy gif that you are ROFL about... sheshe2 Aug 2018 #131

Oh please. She has gone out of her way to make sure she is in the lime light, and some our still_one Aug 2018 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #114

Actually people are attacking a general election democrat Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #115

Calling DUers paid GOP shills isn't very nice. betsuni Aug 2018 #125

It is worse than that, it is bordering on a TOS violation still_one Aug 2018 #135

Agree! betsuni Aug 2018 #136

That's what attacking Democrats is, actually. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #138

Accussing someone of being a paid operative is a TOS vioation still_one Aug 2018 #140

so is talking about TOS violations Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #145

Then I suggest you send an alert on me, and stop the silly game plan that you weren't implying still_one Aug 2018 #147

I don't play silly games with alerts Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #148

Let's be honest, it isn't just AOC, the friction has been going on since 2016, and usually I don't still_one Aug 2018 #166

yet, who heaven05 Aug 2018 #238

no doubt about it, and she loves being in the limelight, but not the scrutiny that comes with that. still_one Aug 2018 #252

exactly nt heaven05 Aug 2018 #256

Let's be honest, it isn't just AOC, the friction has been going on since 2016, and usually I don't still_one Aug 2018 #167

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #236

The subthread topic was about DU. betsuni Aug 2018 #149

Actually people are attacking democrats Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #151

I know BS attacks Dems in the middle of a Mid-Term Election.. saying they are the Cha Aug 2018 #155

Shame on you Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #158

It's your quote, genius.. own it. Cha Aug 2018 #161

So my quote is very different from your interpretation of it Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #165

Own it. Cha Aug 2018 #173

Wait. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #190

Own your own words. Cha Aug 2018 #195

You first. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #196

Your trying to blame others for your own words is NOT Cha Aug 2018 #197

You aren't making much sense Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #198

Nope sorry.. people can see what you wrote. Cha Aug 2018 #199

They also likely grasp a basic sense of logic Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #202

Your trying to twist is NOT working. Cha Aug 2018 #203

Actually the only people twisting anything are those unsure Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #204

AOC banned the press from a public event and she Cha Aug 2018 #205

So... nobody on DU attacked her? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #206

Constructive criticism not to ban the press in future is not an attack. betsuni Aug 2018 #209

This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #210

Thank You, betsuni! Cha Aug 2018 #278

LOL betsuni Aug 2018 #163

. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #168

See how he owns what he wrote by turning himself Cha Aug 2018 #174

It's interesting to study the techniques. betsuni Aug 2018 #176

I've seen it so many times Cha Aug 2018 #178

You mean??? sheshe2 Aug 2018 #175

These attacks on me are getting quite personal Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #180

You made a statement. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #181

So you think it broke a rule? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #182

Resolved don't make it right. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #184

So you just want to call me out on it? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #185

You want to end division. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #188

I don't care what you think of her Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #192

+1 nt brer cat Aug 2018 #220

Got your number. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #191

Me thinks you just avoided Cha's comment.. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #183

Banning the press may be a good move in AOC's opinion, but the criticism she is betsuni Aug 2018 #160

"Attacking" and "criticizing" are two entirely different things. George II Aug 2018 #218

My comment applies only to those attacking democrats Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #264

You contradict yourself in that post. George II Aug 2018 #284

In accusing me, most people have contradicted themselves Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #285

You all but did with this: George II Aug 2018 #217

It's pure desperation. When you have nothing you Cha Aug 2018 #141

Instead of David Brock, we are now being paid by the GOP! betsuni Aug 2018 #143

lol.. Talk about the Twilight Zone.. Cha Aug 2018 #150

I haven't received a check. George II Aug 2018 #242

You wouldn't. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #269

No. But if that's the criteria..................... George II Aug 2018 #273

. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #274

"I wonder if they are doing this on their own prerogative or are actually getting paid the money Cha Aug 2018 #139

Are you saying that people are attacking democrats on this board? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #153

That's your quote.. shame on you. Cha Aug 2018 #157

My comment applies only to those attacking democrats Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #270

You are accusing DUers of being paid shills now? sheshe2 Aug 2018 #152

Not actually Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #156

You're denying your own quote. Cha Aug 2018 #159

Yes people on social media do that and I do wonder why Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #162

No no no, I told you. The subthread topic was what's happening on DU. betsuni Aug 2018 #169

.. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #171

Ah, hon. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #170

I'm sure it's been alerted at this point. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #172

And this pleases you? George II Aug 2018 #214

If it is against the rules Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #268

Mochiron, Tiggeroshii. betsuni Aug 2018 #219

Win what? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #267

Well that is fckng nasty. "Paid shlls for the GOP"? Jesus, get a load of you, Tiggeroshii. Hekate Aug 2018 #189

I resent you saying that DU members are being paid to shill for the GOP. George II Aug 2018 #213

Calling DUers "paid shills for the GOP" ehrnst Aug 2018 #227

"Actually people are attacking a general election democrat" heaven05 Aug 2018 #233

Yup, the Alexandria bashers are havin another feeding frenzy. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #107

Too bad you can't handle so many on this board Cha Aug 2018 #177

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #240

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #186

That is a disgusting image, Power 2 the People. I'll ask this as gently as possible... Hekate Aug 2018 #193

Absolutely! It is disgusting how AOC and other progressive Democrats are treated on this board Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #279

Remember that one time where that guy said the Democrats were the party of the one-percent? NurseJackie Aug 2018 #281

Jackie, if you think progressives are a "very small disgruntled faction of the Democratic party" Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #282

Socialists (self identified and otherwise) not progressives. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #287

Many are one and the same Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #291

So? Who cares? That wasn't the claim being refuted. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #292

You claim to be speaking against socialists instead of progressives. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #295

Press Should Be Invited PaulX2 Aug 2018 #86

bullshit. This was a public town hall still_one Aug 2018 #89

Give me a break. She is treating the press like a light switch that she can turn on and off. RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #90

Alexandria didn't turn the light switch on by herself, it was the constituents of her district Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #95

How can you possibly defend a politician blocking local press from a constituency event? RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #96

The First Amendment protects both "speech" and the "press." Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #98

Simply because you like the candidate is no excuse for accepting Trumpian behavior. RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #100

+1000 sheshe2 Aug 2018 #120

Well "she has been elevated to the mighty lightswitch in the sky." N/T lapucelle Aug 2018 #289

They are not constituents. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #286

How does she know ICE people weren't in there with their cell phones taking pictures? pnwmom Aug 2018 #93

exactly still_one Aug 2018 #104

White House bans CNN reporter from press conference still_one Aug 2018 #103

Can black people be racist? Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #106

Spot on again Uncle Joe... as usual!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #108

Is someone a racist who advocates racist policies? Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, etc.? Were the still_one Aug 2018 #137

still, the issue here isn't racism or other bigotry. it's about banning the media . JI7 Aug 2018 #144

You are absolutely right. I was just addressing the assertion that only those who have power can be still_one Aug 2018 #146

Lots of fake outrage here DeltaLitProf Aug 2018 #109

Precisely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #110

Looks like we have a winner! Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #142

Hyperbole much? Nobody but you said anything about Cha Aug 2018 #179

Yes, exacty! mountain grammy Aug 2018 #235

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #280

Thrown in the deep end too soon! BobMerlin Aug 2018 #126

I think you hit it, she's made some bad rookie mistakes, hopefully she has a mentor... marble falls Aug 2018 #221

So you think a Latin woman who unseated the #4 Democrat in the House needs a mentor... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #248

We all need mentors. Even me. She's learning, too. Cutting off the press is a bad move and ... marble falls Aug 2018 #251

So, who should be Alexandria's mentor? And do you really think... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #260

For a variety of reasons it is not my place to even presume to know better than she who it is she .. marble falls Aug 2018 #263

Remind me again, is she a Democrat or a Republican? LonePirate Aug 2018 #127

The press is excluded from all events held by Texas GOP types Gothmog Aug 2018 #134

And the GOP will pay for it in certain districts and in the other disticts it does not matter... marble falls Aug 2018 #255

My congresscritter has not held a town hall in years Gothmog Aug 2018 #262

Lets be honest. Does that remind anybody of another person? rockfordfile Aug 2018 #132

"Feel safe"? It's a Town Hall to discuss policy, not therapy. I don't get it. betsuni Aug 2018 #133

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #194

She says she meant "to invite vulnerable populations to PUBLIC discourse." ucrdem Aug 2018 #207

Everyone seems to feel safe here at this town hall in the same district: George II Aug 2018 #212

what can you expect heaven05 Aug 2018 #230

Exactly as I expected. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #254

Transparency is important. MY views on that have not changed. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #259

Great videos-thanks for posting Gothmog Aug 2018 #261

If Cortez said this, it was a most ignorant statement and shows off an amatuer's view beachbum bob Aug 2018 #216

It seems like this was written by a CYA-committee... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #231

nothing worse than coming across as an amatuer and the problem is she is one and most likely beachbum bob Aug 2018 #239

And then, there are the overwrought emotionally driven responses claiming she's being "bashed" ... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #243

Does she think the press is the "Enemy", too? PubliusEnigma Aug 2018 #232

Please stop, just stop all of this bickering... Heartstrings Aug 2018 #266

GOTV - by supporting a movement icaria Aug 2018 #283

Yes! Exactly! Heartstrings Aug 2018 #288

I feel that way about Nancy Pelosi ehrnst Aug 2018 #296

I have no idea how this thread got so long Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #290