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120. No, but we also shouldn't consider her claims to not be legitimate

Reply to tonedevil (Reply #117)

Sun Aug 19, 2018, 01:11 PM

Aug 2018

based on what we know either.

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Karen Monahan threatens to release more info about Keith Ellison, [View all] pnwmom Aug 2018 OP

Sick of the right doing this Matthew28 Aug 2018 #1

Why are you blaming this on the right? Wouldn't it make more sense, if the right pnwmom Aug 2018 #3

doubt it's the right per se qazplm135 Aug 2018 #70

What am I missing. Isn't the primary over with Ellison winning? brush Aug 2018 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #86

Release your evidence mcar Aug 2018 #2

Actually, to the Reeps, it is a game. ananda Aug 2018 #4

Yes mcar Aug 2018 #6

agree JI7 Aug 2018 #10

Does a woman have a right to be believed or not? GatoGordo Aug 2018 #13

No. David__77 Aug 2018 #21

they have a right to be heard and accusation taken seriously JI7 Aug 2018 #24

I don't think that's in the constitution. LisaL Aug 2018 #27

Of course mcar Aug 2018 #60

Not unless he files a lawsuit claiming defamation. She has the right to free speech, pnwmom Aug 2018 #72

Yes, that is true mcar Aug 2018 #76

Yeah, it would have been better a year ago. But they didn't break up till a couple years ago. pnwmom Aug 2018 #79

Love... at140 Aug 2018 #90

Welcome to DU, at140! nt pnwmom Aug 2018 #91

wow thank you at140 Aug 2018 #94

I started during the George Bush era. It did feel like the underground then. pnwmom Aug 2018 #96

Wait a minute. He won the primary. He is the nominee. Has every one forgotten? brush Aug 2018 #128

no she has a right to be taken seriously qazplm135 Aug 2018 #67

No Loki Liesmith Aug 2018 #80

Sixth term and it's just coming out now. LakeArenal Aug 2018 #5

The relationship ended two years ago, so it wouldn't have come out pnwmom Aug 2018 #8

Sounds like b.s. Why wouldn't she release the whole thing NOW? oasis Aug 2018 #7

I think it would be humiliating to have a video released of yourself being dragged off a bed. pnwmom Aug 2018 #11

But the accusation was made that such a video exists. LisaL Aug 2018 #26

The son made the accusation, not the mother. spooky3 Aug 2018 #33

Mother says the accusation is true, so doesn't matter who made it first. LisaL Aug 2018 #36

If there was a video of a woman being raped, would she have to publicly release the video pnwmom Aug 2018 #38

Not publicly, but presumably such a video would have to be given to police if this woman wanted to LisaL Aug 2018 #42

So a woman is required to press charges if she is abused? Either that or she has to shut up forever? pnwmom Aug 2018 #46

Nobody is required to press charges. LisaL Aug 2018 #50

Remember, it was her son that described seeing the video -- and said it wasn't his. pnwmom Aug 2018 #54

Nobody says she is required to release it. LisaL Aug 2018 #57

I'm curious how Cha Aug 2018 #32

My guess would be a hidden camera in an object, that's how. LisaL Aug 2018 #35

That makes more sense.. By Karen expecting she might Cha Aug 2018 #40

But from what I see, it was said to be recorded in his house mythology Aug 2018 #89

This is a good point, Cha ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #98

What's not strange is the timing. There's no better time to damage a Democrat... brush Aug 2018 #129

He did not want her on/in his bed. alphafemale Aug 2018 #104

Since Ellison is denying this, produce the video or withdraw the accusation. OnDoutside Aug 2018 #9

No. She should be able to make her accusation without having to produce pnwmom Aug 2018 #12

Then she shouldn't even mention the video marylandblue Aug 2018 #14

She didn't mention the video -- her son did. I just added his Facebook post to the OP. pnwmom Aug 2018 #16

If it were my mother, I would not speak of the incident at all marylandblue Aug 2018 #18

If this is true, he's a 25 year old who was horrified by what happened to his mother. pnwmom Aug 2018 #23

Yes but it is not his story to tell, it is hers nt marylandblue Aug 2018 #30

The part that is HIS to tell is how he was using her computer pnwmom Aug 2018 #41

No doubt he was upset, but it's still not his information marylandblue Aug 2018 #65

He had probably been reading her tweets over the last weeks and months. pnwmom Aug 2018 #75

Well fine, but if she didn't reveal his name, he shouldn't have marylandblue Aug 2018 #78

But why is that an important issue? He's 25, a young adult, and he made a mistake. pnwmom Aug 2018 #82

Well maybe it is a mistake and he'll just have to live with the consequences marylandblue Aug 2018 #84

If his story is not true... tonedevil Aug 2018 #115

She has text messages and tweets. Those should say a lot. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #22

I think I saw one, she ranted at him and then they agreed to meet marylandblue Aug 2018 #25

He claims the video doesn't exist because he never behaved in such a way. LisaL Aug 2018 #28

In light of the Franken knifing, I wholeheartedly disagree. Monahan made her accusation, Ellison OnDoutside Aug 2018 #15

Do you agree that it is possible that the son is telling the truth? He is the one who chose to spooky3 Aug 2018 #20

I do agree it is possible, but Ellison says there is no video, so one of them is lying, and that OnDoutside Aug 2018 #34

I totally agree that another Franken recurrence would be awful. It looks to me as if spooky3 Aug 2018 #39

So women and their children don't get to make accusations now unless they can produce a video? n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #44

Again, if you claim there is a video, people would expect to see the video. LisaL Aug 2018 #55

The son made the claim, and the video doesn't belong to him. And the video supposedly pnwmom Aug 2018 #77

When they said they actually had a video ? No, of course they can OnDoutside Aug 2018 #97

No maxrandb Aug 2018 #131

She doesn't have to produce the video just because her son posted publicly about seeing it. pnwmom Aug 2018 #74

Videos can be redacted jberryhill Aug 2018 #61

she can make whatever accusation she wants qazplm135 Aug 2018 #69

It's disturbing to me, especially given #MeToo, that some people are not waiting to spooky3 Aug 2018 #17

I think you've got it backwards. kcr Aug 2018 #88

Who made the video? cachukis Aug 2018 #19

How would there be a video of this? BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2018 #29

Doesn't have to be a third party. LisaL Aug 2018 #31

Good point....I was thinking more kinky ! OnDoutside Aug 2018 #37

Yes, some people have security cameras inside their homes - to watch child care providers, spooky3 Aug 2018 #43

Well, this one must have been pointing at her bed. LisaL Aug 2018 #45

when people install these, they often install them throughout the home. spooky3 Aug 2018 #47

Pointing at ones bed? LisaL Aug 2018 #52

Come on, you are really stretching. I've already explained to you why it is possible spooky3 Aug 2018 #56

Where did I say it wasn't possible? LisaL Aug 2018 #58

Don't some computers have the capability for this? I remember a controversy pnwmom Aug 2018 #48

Yes, of course, modern ones have cameras build in. LisaL Aug 2018 #51

Yeah, that could be. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2018 #49

There are more simple explanations hardluck Aug 2018 #100

Powerful Men Abuse Women, Period dlk Aug 2018 #53

Seems suspicious timing wise. KPN Aug 2018 #59

Standard Procedure... at140 Aug 2018 #92

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #62

Hi!!! My first post below... Claritie Pixie Aug 2018 #63

Been thinking about this for awhile oldtime dfl_er Aug 2018 #64

I agree. If the concern is she could be humiliated by release of the video, LisaL Aug 2018 #66

It's pretty simple actual marylandblue Aug 2018 #68

Its simpler than that. Get an attorney. Go to the cops. Claritie Pixie Aug 2018 #71

Attorney would be biased. marylandblue Aug 2018 #73

Most domestic violence victims don't press charges Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #103

So are we to consider... tonedevil Aug 2018 #117

No, but we also shouldn't consider her claims to not be legitimate Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #120

At this point we have... tonedevil Aug 2018 #124

Good question Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #125

Timing snowybirdie Aug 2018 #81

It would be worse if it was after he was the nominee. n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #83

A Couple Things Jake Stern Aug 2018 #85

This is before the primary election. It would have been much worse before the General. pnwmom Aug 2018 #87

Maybe. But I see a lot of people saying it seems like an Al Franken hit job. kcr Aug 2018 #122

Why are so many MFM008 Aug 2018 #93

There's another Democrat running for the same office, who might be a better opponent pnwmom Aug 2018 #95

Monohan pivots and now says she WON'T release "video" ck4829 Aug 2018 #99

Maybe she should get on to Mark Burnett ? He's a great man for tapes.... OnDoutside Aug 2018 #102

A lot of you throwing the "BS" flag obviously don't have any experience with domestic violence Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #105

Excellent post JonLP24 Aug 2018 #106

Just release that video, then, Ms. Monahan. You say it exists, so let's see it. MineralMan Aug 2018 #107

Textbook example of how DV victims are shamed Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #108

I'm doing nothing of the sort. If there is video evidence of this, MineralMan Aug 2018 #109

Oh you are doing it. You just can't see what your doing Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #110

So, what are voters supposed to do? Just believe her now and vote against the guy? IluvPitties Aug 2018 #112

I laid that out in the post you just responded to Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #116

Expecting someone to back up such serious claims is n when they say they have proof is not shaming nini Aug 2018 #118

Honestly, timing is suspect. IluvPitties Aug 2018 #111

This feels more like an "Acorn" scam than Greybnk48 Aug 2018 #113

just out of curiosity noobareus Aug 2018 #114

No MichMan Aug 2018 #130

This will not be resolved easily. He-said-she-said rarely is. DFW Aug 2018 #119

All she needs to do show the tape to a respected journalist who can confirm it exists. davsand Aug 2018 #121

"I was using my mom's computer trying to download something and I clicked on a file." VOX Aug 2018 #123

If somebody says they have proof, they need to show it! ananda Aug 2018 #126

When I was 14... Charlotte Little Aug 2018 #127