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Jake Tapper/factcheck.org on claims about the Koch Bros funded study on health care costs [View all]
ehrnst
Aug 2018
OP
Some have lifted small portions of that "study" and isolated sentences to claim, to the effect....
George II
Aug 2018
#1
How does this relate to what Sanders and AOC said about the Koch funded study? (nt)
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#17
No one is disagreeing with any of that, and we are all perfectly aware of it. Your insistence on
Squinch
Aug 2018
#27
What does this have to do with Sanders' and AOC's claims about the conclusions of the study?
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#39
I can be difficult to muster up words beyond that of a bumper-sticker. Nice try, though.
LanternWaste
Aug 2018
#87
You got nothing, otherwise you would have stated something beyond a four-letter word. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#101
Nice try. If we want it, we need to work it out. Which is obviously possible to do. But
Squinch
Aug 2018
#7
What exactly? Where did Factcheck.org get it wrong about what Sanders and AOC claimed?
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#19
No, the analysis is that the "Koch Study Was Good Just Left Stuff Out", but...
George II
Aug 2018
#44
Can you direct me to his plan to pay for it, and the progress he's made over the years? TIA.
George II
Aug 2018
#55
You are still just throwing out phrases with no context, and no citations, My Friend.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#34
Can you give an example of any unaccounted externality in the Mercatus study?
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#111
I heard that a couple of weeks ago from a Democratic Congressional candidate, that "death cost".
George II
Aug 2018
#41
And, you bast*rds, how dare you suggest that the rest of us don't believe healthcare is a right?
Squinch
Aug 2018
#23
It seems to me that this thread is a perfect illustration of the stupidity of the
Squinch
Aug 2018
#31
Was it purists or "realists" that removed the public option and Medicare buy in from the ACA?
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#92
If it was not removed, we would not have gotten the votes to pass ACA in the Senate.
SunSeeker
Aug 2018
#97
Yep - Ted Kennedy thought that we might have something now that is closer to what Canada has
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#124
Was it the purists or the realists that got the first healthcare plan that has ever been passed
Squinch
Aug 2018
#100
It still doesn't cover the general public because of the loopholes that allowed Republicans...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#103
Where am I blaming Democrats? They did the best they could, we, on the ground...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#105
That ought to be self evident, but this thread seems to show that to some it isn't.
Squinch
Aug 2018
#128
Horseshoes and hand grenades. Even if it's $2 Trillion more over 10 years, everyone has insurance.
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2018
#46
And if we find it is 2 trillion more, then we can easily do what we need to do to fund it, namely
Squinch
Aug 2018
#49
If we find, it's there at $200B/yr. If it were an increase, we're talking 6.7%. It could be even.
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2018
#52
How does this address what CNN and factcheck.org say about what the study actually concluded vs
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#73
The larger objective should be to get a senate version of HR 676 written and passed.
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#114
This fact checked needs some fact checking. Based on a completely bogus statement.
Nanjeanne
Aug 2018
#50
LOL! Such careful splitting of hairs and obvious word-games means you've already lost the argument.
NurseJackie
Aug 2018
#58
I was referring to the false distinction separating "the American People" from Taxpayers
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#71
As a matter of funding this program - the American people will do so through the Govt.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#81
But that isn't what Sanders was saying, the American People also pay copays, premiums....
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#77
I know what Tapper said but his conclusion on the accuracy of Sanders and AOC is simply
Nanjeanne
Aug 2018
#76
So you think that the author of the study should not be trusted concerning his conclusions
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#85
Ok I'll try again and then I give up. I think the author of the Koch funded analysis that was based
Nanjeanne
Aug 2018
#88
He starts off with a claim that is not true, neither Sanders nor AOC are talking about saving...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#78
He says the Koch brothers, who have control over their hiring and firing, didn't influence...
Hassin Bin Sober
Aug 2018
#79
So what is his conclusion, is it going to cost the same, significantly more, or less? N/t
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#91
Where is his evidence for this, even assuming disbursement payments match levels of insurance...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#95
Throughout this thread the facts - not alternative facts - have been posted. But you know, it's
Nanjeanne
Aug 2018
#106