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Tommy_Carcetti

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Wed Aug 22, 2018, 02:00 PM Aug 2018

Question about John Dean for people who lived through Watergate [View all]

I was born after Watergate. The only things I know about Watergate are through news articles, documentaries and the history books. So I didn't actually live it as it happened.

John Dean emerged from Watergate as one of its heroes. Since then, he has established himself as an authority on the dangers of unchecked presidential power and abuses of office. These days he does carry the reputation of being a patriot.

However, prior to the Watergate it's undoubtedly true he was a key player in some of Nixon's worst abuses. He was the author of the infamous "Enemies List". And while he turned against Nixon because he logically did not want to end up as the scapegoat, it still bears noting he had his hands dirty up to that point.

My question is, what was the general perception of John Dean pre-Watergate? Was he just a team player who wanted to please his boss so he did what he needed to do to get along? Or was he a key architect of dirty tricks, much like a Karl Rove type?

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John dean was about protecting his ass. I remember the moment when he beachbum bob Aug 2018 #1
I agree bob. saidsimplesimon Aug 2018 #2
Much like Michael Cohen. nt WhiteTara Aug 2018 #25
I thought it was Al Butterfield who first revealed the WH taping system to the investigators. WheelWalker Aug 2018 #4
Nope, during an actual watergate hearing. Dean said tapes existed beachbum bob Aug 2018 #10
I think Dean speculated that there were tapes and Butterfield confirmed it. meadowlander Aug 2018 #16
I believe Dean "suspected" that Nixon had taped him because he kept Atticus Aug 2018 #22
Yep, Dean thought there were tapes, but DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #24
As You And LeftieNanner Said. . . ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #6
Was Dean 1st to state publicly there were tapes? I thought it was someone else, then Dean confirmed bobbieinok Aug 2018 #17
He was a very ambitious lawyer leftieNanner Aug 2018 #3
There is some strong comparison between he and Cohen, but not Rove. tonyt53 Aug 2018 #5
Ultimately it's better to do the right thing even for the wrong reason. Girard442 Aug 2018 #14
He seems at peace now. tonyt53 Aug 2018 #29
I can't answer his question but have an interesting tidbit. Claritie Pixie Aug 2018 #7
He was unknown pre-Watergate. Sneederbunk Aug 2018 #8
This. Nixon ran a tighter ship than Trump. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2018 #26
Then, as now, few knew who the WH Counsel was... Dave Starsky Aug 2018 #27
I recall basically nothing about him other than he was one of many ... SWBTATTReg Aug 2018 #9
Although Dean was originally sentenced to 1-4 years in prison after he pled guilty ... GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #11
The reduced sentence was fully justified. He almost singlehandedly took Nixon down. hedda_foil Aug 2018 #33
before Nixon (and Watergate) lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #12
Dean was WH Counsel (Councel, Council...) 11cents Aug 2018 #13
I don't think I considered Dean a villain or a hero. By Raven Aug 2018 #15
Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell and Dean song from 1973 (Can't get C&P) irisblue Aug 2018 #18
Stupid teaches zipplewrath Aug 2018 #19
I was old enough to collect signatures on a petition urging Nixon's impeachment Atticus Aug 2018 #20
An ambitious, talented libertarian-leaning conservative Hortensis Aug 2018 #21
What Dean said about the tapes: Hamlette Aug 2018 #23
I just remember Dean as WH counsel DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #28
I just remember his wife. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2018 #30
Nobody had heard of him. He stayed out of the news, unlike Haldeman, Ehrlichman and Mitchell. hedda_foil Aug 2018 #31
I doubt most people knew who he was until he spilled the beans at the hearing eleny Aug 2018 #32
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