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FakeNoose

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12. You make a good point about the original payment

Wed Aug 22, 2018, 03:09 PM

Aug 2018

Paying Stormy Daniels wasn't illegal, he could have used his own money and kept it private.
But he told Cohen to pay it out of his own pocket and fail to disclose it as a campaign expense.

Trump denied knowing anything about it initially. Once he did that, the ship has sailed and he can't say later that well, he really did know but it wasn't a campaign expense. Everything Trump denied and obfuscated turned out to be true. Why should he ever get the benefit of the doubt?

He had one chance to straighten it out. But instead he lied and got himself into more trouble.

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Stable Genius equates to Horse's Ass. n/t Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #18

And he called Cohen a rat. So Cohen was, according to Trump, telling the truth eleny Aug 2018 #2

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You hit that nail on the head, ER eleny Aug 2018 #34

Amateur Trump Gang thought nobody would notice. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #3

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This Vox article has the 50 second video. If it's campaign related - Either way it's illegal. underpants Aug 2018 #5

You make a good point about the original payment FakeNoose Aug 2018 #12

Plus, paying bribes as a cover up DURING the campaign is illegal. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2018 #15

I thought the key to illegality was whether he did it Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #21

From my reading/understanding- the source doesn't matter because it was campaign related underpants Aug 2018 #30

Thanks. Sorry having duh moment..what made Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #35

When Cohen got reimbursed they made a fake invoice from a dummy company FakeNoose Aug 2018 #58

Yes he did take out a line of credit on his house underpants Aug 2018 #63

cohen not having 130K on hand was puzzling Merlot Aug 2018 #64

I have never seen a transcript of the tape of -45 and Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #67

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Cohen was the head/chair of the RNC finances underpants Aug 2018 #62

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LOL underpants Aug 2018 #25

A Line I've Used Already ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #36

Not having knowledge probably won't work if Cohen recorded it. :) LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #38

I doubt a defense of "I was afraid my wife would find out" would work to well though given cstanleytech Aug 2018 #41

I don't accept the "fact" that a president can't be indicted. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #6

I don't either ...as a lot of legal experts agree...but we'll see Thekaspervote Aug 2018 #9

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Other than working its way to SCOTUS SCantiGOP Aug 2018 #16

I truly think that policy depends on the crime. If he murdered someone on TV no one would argue bettyellen Aug 2018 #20

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I think congress might change their tune and be amenable to at least threatening to impeach bettyellen Aug 2018 #59

Perhaps its time to take the DOJ out from under the executive branch and create one for it? cstanleytech Aug 2018 #44

That policy needs to be destroyed. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #39

He'd still be President until he's impeached, whether or not he's indicted. onenote Aug 2018 #66

If BigBoy can do it "My Way" and ignore precedent, Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #22

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So he committed felonies and misdemeanors to get into office, Mc Mike Aug 2018 #50

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HUUUUGE flaw in the system... lame54 Aug 2018 #52

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perjury trap just sprung on Pinocchio's nose. librechik Aug 2018 #7

big fail presenting as fact the republican claim that sitting presidents can't be indicted. unblock Aug 2018 #8

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They came out of the trump company, too, Ilsa Aug 2018 #13

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He should had asked if Trump is not the unnamed co-conspirator LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #42

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Yep it's the reporting underpants Aug 2018 #33

Because he wired to Davidson, not her jberryhill Aug 2018 #46

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Or Amendment 25 Fritz Walter Aug 2018 #45

Yes NickPeace Aug 2018 #68

Post title tipped over my giggle box Alea Aug 2018 #48

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