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In reply to the discussion: So where will the extra $16 trillion come from to pay for Sanders' plan? [View all]lapucelle
(20,988 posts)26. HR 676 has funding details built into the legislation.
That's why medicare for all advocates have been pushing for this bill for 15 years.
Subtitle BFunding
SEC. 211. OVERVIEW: FUNDING THE MEDICARE FOR ALL PROGRAM.
(a) In General- The Medicare for All Program is to be funded as provided in subsection (c)(1).
(b) Medicare for All Trust Fund- There shall be established a Medicare for All Trust Fund in which funds provided under this section are deposited and from which expenditures under this Act are made.
(c) Funding-
(1) IN GENERAL- There are appropriated to the Medicare for All Trust Fund amounts sufficient to carry out this Act from the following sources:
[NOTE: the following part of H.R. 676 describes only one idea for the funding. After sufficient support is established in the U.S. House of Representatives, many funding options will likely be debated. It will be important for some citizens to monitor the progress and give input at that time. In the meantime, any ideas or wishes you have for funding should be sent by letter in the U.S. Mail to your U.S. Representative and U.S. Senators.]
(A) Existing sources of Federal government revenues for health care.
(B) Increasing personal income taxes on the top 5 percent income earners.
(to do: need to communicate what level of income this means)
(C) Instituting a modest and progressive excise tax on payroll and self-employment income.
[Current Medicare tax: 1.45% paid by employers and employees.]
(D) Instituting a modest tax on unearned income.
[This is an additional source of funding added to the H.R. 676 that was proposed in the previous session of Congress. The expected percentage is not yet available. H.R. 676 will not be given an economic evaluation by the Congressional Budget Office until it gets to at least 100 cosponsors<.]
(E) Instituting a small tax on stock and bond transactions.
(2) SYSTEM SAVINGS AS A SOURCE OF FINANCING- Funding otherwise required for the Program is reduced as a result of
(A) vastly reducing paperwork
[Elimination of unnecessary administrative activities within all of our health care bureaucracy]
[for-profit bureaucracy]
[government bureaucracy]
[supporting bureaucracy that results from the other two types of bureauracracy and the overall negative situation that they cause]
[ Go to Costs and Savings for more information.]
(B) requiring a rational bulk procurement of medications under section 205(a).
(C) improved access to preventive health care.
(3) ADDITIONAL ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS TO MEDICARE FOR ALL PROGRAM- Additional sums are authorized to be appropriated annually as needed to maintain maximum quality, efficiency, and access under the Program.
* SEC. 212. APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXISTING PROGRAMS.
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, there are hereby transferred and appropriated to carry out this Act, amounts from the Treasury equivalent to the amounts the Secretary estimates would have been appropriated and expended for Federal public health care programs, including funds that would have been appropriated under the Medicare program under title XVIII of the Social Security Act, under the Medicaid program under title XIX of such Act, and under the Childrens Health Insurance Program under title XXI of such Act. »[The cost for most Americans will be primarily or only the tax on payroll (employee and employer) or self-employment income. The savings from not having to pay for-profit health insurance premiums will be dramatically more than the increased payroll cost, as seen at the Costs and Savings web page.]
SEC. 211. OVERVIEW: FUNDING THE MEDICARE FOR ALL PROGRAM.
(a) In General- The Medicare for All Program is to be funded as provided in subsection (c)(1).
(b) Medicare for All Trust Fund- There shall be established a Medicare for All Trust Fund in which funds provided under this section are deposited and from which expenditures under this Act are made.
(c) Funding-
(1) IN GENERAL- There are appropriated to the Medicare for All Trust Fund amounts sufficient to carry out this Act from the following sources:
[NOTE: the following part of H.R. 676 describes only one idea for the funding. After sufficient support is established in the U.S. House of Representatives, many funding options will likely be debated. It will be important for some citizens to monitor the progress and give input at that time. In the meantime, any ideas or wishes you have for funding should be sent by letter in the U.S. Mail to your U.S. Representative and U.S. Senators.]
(A) Existing sources of Federal government revenues for health care.
(B) Increasing personal income taxes on the top 5 percent income earners.
(to do: need to communicate what level of income this means)
(C) Instituting a modest and progressive excise tax on payroll and self-employment income.
[Current Medicare tax: 1.45% paid by employers and employees.]
(D) Instituting a modest tax on unearned income.
[This is an additional source of funding added to the H.R. 676 that was proposed in the previous session of Congress. The expected percentage is not yet available. H.R. 676 will not be given an economic evaluation by the Congressional Budget Office until it gets to at least 100 cosponsors<.]
(E) Instituting a small tax on stock and bond transactions.
(2) SYSTEM SAVINGS AS A SOURCE OF FINANCING- Funding otherwise required for the Program is reduced as a result of
(A) vastly reducing paperwork
[Elimination of unnecessary administrative activities within all of our health care bureaucracy]
[for-profit bureaucracy]
[government bureaucracy]
[supporting bureaucracy that results from the other two types of bureauracracy and the overall negative situation that they cause]
[ Go to Costs and Savings for more information.]
(B) requiring a rational bulk procurement of medications under section 205(a).
(C) improved access to preventive health care.
(3) ADDITIONAL ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS TO MEDICARE FOR ALL PROGRAM- Additional sums are authorized to be appropriated annually as needed to maintain maximum quality, efficiency, and access under the Program.
* SEC. 212. APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXISTING PROGRAMS.
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, there are hereby transferred and appropriated to carry out this Act, amounts from the Treasury equivalent to the amounts the Secretary estimates would have been appropriated and expended for Federal public health care programs, including funds that would have been appropriated under the Medicare program under title XVIII of the Social Security Act, under the Medicaid program under title XIX of such Act, and under the Childrens Health Insurance Program under title XXI of such Act. »[The cost for most Americans will be primarily or only the tax on payroll (employee and employer) or self-employment income. The savings from not having to pay for-profit health insurance premiums will be dramatically more than the increased payroll cost, as seen at the Costs and Savings web page.]
NO SENATE VERSION OF THIS BILL EXISTS. We need a senator to step up and write and introduce a Senate version of this bill.
http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/HR676
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So where will the extra $16 trillion come from to pay for Sanders' plan? [View all]
dansolo
Aug 2018
OP
Exactly my thinking. berines day has come and gone. Now w this tax cut, the gop
Crutchez_CuiBono
Aug 2018
#1
Absolutely Not - I Am Obese And Trying To Diet Every Day - Provide Them / Us With Care
PaulX2
Aug 2018
#135
US healthcare is the most expensive in the world. Implement a European model and
Doodley
Aug 2018
#8
Scrap the overcharging. Scrap the excessive profits. Scrap the insurance scam. Scrap all the
Doodley
Aug 2018
#39
Even if one stipulates to your points, none of that will happen at once or overnight.
stopbush
Aug 2018
#48
I don't get your resistance to having a more efficient system that means healthcare is
Doodley
Aug 2018
#60
Who is being resistent? I am for universal care, but we need to have an HONEST
stopbush
Aug 2018
#62
It took Europe and Canada 70 years to get where it is, and they were starting on a clean slate.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#140
Older people don't have babies. Do you know what the costs are for having a baby?
stopbush
Aug 2018
#61
I have borderline type 2 diabetes. My medication costs me around $10 for a 3-month supply.
stopbush
Aug 2018
#121
You would not need to increase Medicare spending, and thus the Medicare tax four-fold
VMA131Marine
Aug 2018
#56
Hold on, let me see, so that would increase my FICA tax by about 40 bucks a month...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#67
Actually, I would be paying into Medicare about 150 dollars a month, versus...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#78
I would be paying well over double my premium if my fiancee were on my insurance...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2018
#86
And Medicare for All promises WAY more than Medicare does, & will as such, cost more than Medicare.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#154
I know. I think it's a combination of being overly confident of one's skills in economics
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#162
AT a time when the ONLY conversation should be ELECT Democrats NO MATTER WHAT
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2018
#203
We pay more in taxes alone than the UK pays in TOTAL for healthvare. Doctors in the UK are
Doodley
Aug 2018
#58
You know how long it took for any "European model" - whichever of the of the several
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#94
And my wife's parents were bankrupted by the American heathcare system. My wife would be
Doodley
Aug 2018
#40
You are wrong. Taxes would not increase dramatically. The UK spends about HALF per person
Doodley
Aug 2018
#11
Are you trying to argue that America is getting value for money out of its healthcare
Doodley
Aug 2018
#42
Taxes that go toward healthcare in the UK are less than taxes that go toward healthcare
Doodley
Aug 2018
#38
Are you saying your taxes don't help to pay for Medicare AND Medicaid? Your taxes go towards
Doodley
Aug 2018
#206
That $32.8 trillion is obviously wrong. Deduct two trillion per year, the government already pays,
Doodley
Aug 2018
#7
If you add the savings from medical marijuana to the revenue from taxing the Clinton foundation
ucrdem
Aug 2018
#10
The reaction by many to any factchecking or dissent from their leader's statments
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#106
The only scary thing about Bernie is his ability to fuck shit up for Democrats.
MrsCoffee
Aug 2018
#107
"Everything is on his website. You should check that out. It goes into depth too!"
George II
Aug 2018
#109
I haven't been following this particular thread, but the obvious answer is taxes.
Vinca
Aug 2018
#29
Please stop smearing anyone who questions a bill as "peddling right wing talking points"
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#149
Right now, millions of taxpayers without children are paying for K-12 education.
David__77
Aug 2018
#130
But you claimed that bernie's plan is perfect and that this plan has all of the details filled is
Gothmog
Aug 2018
#186
However, if there was ever a state that was friendly to single payer, wouldn't it be the one that
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#190
Or some other source. Reducing military spending, etc. I have no problem paying more for
Squinch
Aug 2018
#90
no, rest of us would have to pay more also . this is why Vermont and other States never went through
JI7
Aug 2018
#123
There is no way to rebuild from the ground up without wrecking health care delivery.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#157