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heaven05

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21. Well, I hope

Reply to gratuitous (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 23, 2018, 11:20 AM

Aug 2018

she can read your explanation, somewhere.

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Can one of her suporters tell me, what is this??? [View all] heaven05 Aug 2018 OP

Probably refers to actual criminals being deported? BSdetect Aug 2018 #1

maybe, yet heaven05 Aug 2018 #9

I had no problem understanding what she meant. Demit Aug 2018 #49

Agreed J_William_Ryan Aug 2018 #51

DHS was created during 2 wars, its time to disband the whole dept. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #53

"Maybe"? She embedded the tweet she replied to - it's about a literal Nazi muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #63

Bingo.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #106

Kinda like playing both side-ism? Wwcd Aug 2018 #2

yeah exactly, 'others' heaven05 Aug 2018 #5

ICE didn't even exist until 2003. Deportation did. Cal Carpenter Aug 2018 #56

Whyy do her supporters have to explain so many of her statements? Wwcd Aug 2018 #57

TBH, I'm not even a supporter Cal Carpenter Aug 2018 #58

Haaahaaa.. ok. Those 'detractors' include everyone who has to stand & wait for an explaination, & Wwcd Aug 2018 #59

I know little about her and I found the comment easy enough to read mythology Aug 2018 #90

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #92

No one, with a basic knowledge of US history on immigation Ms. Toad Aug 2018 #111

No explanation is needed except for those who are being disingenuous to attack the Dem candidate. nt Humanist_Activist Aug 2018 #69

I'm not a huge fan of hers qazplm135 Aug 2018 #82

What is her sin here? Tweets by nature WhiteTara Aug 2018 #86

The only sin here is one of omission. The OP left out part of the tweet Autumn Aug 2018 #87

'Quite finished with this subject' melman Aug 2018 #93

Nyuk nyuk. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #112

Not difficult... GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #3

" H2O Man Aug 2018 #6

yeah, sure heaven05 Aug 2018 #7

It is said that H2O Man Aug 2018 #15

+ + really .. ICE is not that old of an agency and deportation was taking place long before ICE lunasun Aug 2018 #32

Exactly right. H2O Man Aug 2018 #43

Sad, indeed pecosbob Aug 2018 #73

ICE was created in 2003. Deportation existed prior to 2003. George II Aug 2018 #66

Right. H2O Man Aug 2018 #68

It sounds as if she is OK with continuing general deportation policies, lapucelle Aug 2018 #80

She was replying to a specific challenge about the deportation of an actual Nazi muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #88

How does that context change an interpretation that lapucelle Aug 2018 #89

because deporting a Nazi over war crimes is not "general deportation policies" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #95

The federal statute lists such cases as within "GENERAL CLASSES OF DEPORTABLE ALIENS". lapucelle Aug 2018 #97

Do you understand what "within" means? That's it's different from "is identical to"? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #98

Wait...what? What are you talking about? lapucelle Aug 2018 #99

"within" comes from your own reply title #97. I don't think you understand how to use it muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #100

So your is your argument that AOC is not OK with the general classes of deportable aliens lapucelle Aug 2018 #101

I'm saying it's wrong to generalise from "deporting a Nazi is OK" or muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #102

So your argument is that AOC is not or may not be lapucelle Aug 2018 #103

She may or may not be, and you can't decide from her tweet. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #104

I don't use Wiki articles as a reference for logic and rhetoric; lapucelle Aug 2018 #107

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Your original quibble concerned the word "within" lapucelle Aug 2018 #109

Just dialing it back. joshcryer Aug 2018 #4

It's a losing issue. If you're explaining, you're losing. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #8

Get the spin out there for Name Recognition & others will explain what was actually said Wwcd Aug 2018 #11

exactly heaven05 Aug 2018 #14

Are you asserting that anyone who crosses the border should be allowed to stay? brooklynite Aug 2018 #10

No heaven05 Aug 2018 #13

+ a million.. Smack dab Spot on. Wwcd Aug 2018 #30

The criticism seems to be that AOC clarified that removing ICE didn't mean ending deportation... brooklynite Aug 2018 #40

If they're doing so legally hell yes they deserve to stay !!! uponit7771 Aug 2018 #38

ICE is relativity new. demmiblue Aug 2018 #12

I am not trying to divide heaven05 Aug 2018 #19

Lol. n/t demmiblue Aug 2018 #23

yeah heaven05 Aug 2018 #36

ICE was formed in 2003. We've been deporting people like war criminals long before that. Kaleva Aug 2018 #16

"It does not mean abolish deportation." gratuitous Aug 2018 #17

Well, I hope heaven05 Aug 2018 #21

It's simple, plain English gratuitous Aug 2018 #24

I DID NOT read heaven05 Aug 2018 #25

I never said you did read something into her statement gratuitous Aug 2018 #28

I lulz'd KG Aug 2018 #18

Gretchen Whitmer, Dem candidate for gov of Michigan, is also being attacked on the ICE issue Kaleva Aug 2018 #20

RW BS heaven05 Aug 2018 #31

Your OP makes it look like you are pushing RW talking points then. Kaleva Aug 2018 #33

It means there are some people that will still be deported even without ICE Downtown Hound Aug 2018 #22

Simple for sure. heaven05 Aug 2018 #26

Fine. Downtown Hound Aug 2018 #46

I guess she could have clarified further "...deportation (of actual criminals)". flibbitygiblets Aug 2018 #27

Someone said both-sideism heaven05 Aug 2018 #44

Why are you desperately looking for a way to attack a Democratic candidate? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #61

I honestly don't understand what you are asking. HopeAgain Aug 2018 #29

not nervous heaven05 Aug 2018 #34

"Can one of her suporters tell me,"???? As a Dem nominee, we ALL support her. Kaleva Aug 2018 #35

good heaven05 Aug 2018 #41

As the TOS is clear that we support all Dem candiates, and AOC is one, it makes no sense... Kaleva Aug 2018 #48

Maybe you shouldn't have indicated that you are not one of her supporters? Demit Aug 2018 #50

No rec lunasun Aug 2018 #37

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That's fine, but why start a thread attempting to misconstrue what she means? FSogol Aug 2018 #54

Does she even realize it's CPB and not ICE that is separating families? Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #39

Depends. CPB operates within a 100 miles of the border. Kaleva Aug 2018 #45

The Consumer Protection Bureau is separating families? Jake Stern Aug 2018 #60

I would suggest she would use a different argument than "abolish deportations". haele Aug 2018 #47

"One of her supporters" She is the Democratic candidate. vi5 Aug 2018 #52

Indeed...as the Democratic candidate, we should ALL be supporters pecosbob Aug 2018 #74

Don't Care maxrandb Aug 2018 #55

In context, because heaven05 hid that from everyone on DU: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #62

Interesting. AOC seems to be threatening to some on here. I wonder why? jalan48 Aug 2018 #64

Interesting how that was left out. Gives clear insight to an agenda. Autumn Aug 2018 #70

That certainly makes the OP JackInGreen Aug 2018 #79

Thanks, muriel_volestrangler. demmiblue Aug 2018 #85

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It's not a reading comprehension problem. It's an agenda Autumn Aug 2018 #75

It is sad to see hit pieces on progressives on this site Marrah_Goodman Aug 2018 #67

Good to see you! QC Aug 2018 #71

Thanks Q! Marrah_Goodman Aug 2018 #72

Who cares? beachbum bob Aug 2018 #76

November is more important than these type agendas empedocles Aug 2018 #77

You couldn't have the decency JackInGreen Aug 2018 #78

I thought we were all her supporters klook Aug 2018 #81

It refers to people that committ actual crimes being deported. Blue_true Aug 2018 #83

She was responding to this tweet... borgesian Aug 2018 #84

There actually ARE people who need to be deported. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2018 #91

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You seem smugly pleased with the shit your disingenous OP stirred up muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #96

You should check yourself before you Cha Aug 2018 #110

The problem isn't the name on the department. It's the behavior. Renew Deal Aug 2018 #105