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57. Whyy do her supporters have to explain so many of her statements?

Thu Aug 23, 2018, 01:01 PM

Aug 2018

She perhaps needs to stop with the one line statements and simply make it clear as to her opinions.

Seriously, these oopsies are occurring damn near everytime she speaks publicly.
We ALL see it.
And that is why we question her credibility.

Don't even say its not true.
This has become a habit of hers & as much as some would like to hear her elaborate further, we get a big fat huh?

I'm certainly not the 1st to make this point.

Some are looking for substance behind a popular one line statement from AOC herself, , rather than wait for pundits & fans to define the meaning behind her words

That is a fair expectation of a public servant.
She needs to work on finishing the sentence rather than leaving it to interpretation.

Quite finished with this subject today

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Can one of her suporters tell me, what is this??? [View all] heaven05 Aug 2018 OP

Probably refers to actual criminals being deported? BSdetect Aug 2018 #1

maybe, yet heaven05 Aug 2018 #9

I had no problem understanding what she meant. Demit Aug 2018 #49

Agreed J_William_Ryan Aug 2018 #51

DHS was created during 2 wars, its time to disband the whole dept. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #53

"Maybe"? She embedded the tweet she replied to - it's about a literal Nazi muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #63

Bingo.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #106

Kinda like playing both side-ism? Wwcd Aug 2018 #2

yeah exactly, 'others' heaven05 Aug 2018 #5

ICE didn't even exist until 2003. Deportation did. Cal Carpenter Aug 2018 #56

Whyy do her supporters have to explain so many of her statements? Wwcd Aug 2018 #57

TBH, I'm not even a supporter Cal Carpenter Aug 2018 #58

Haaahaaa.. ok. Those 'detractors' include everyone who has to stand & wait for an explaination, & Wwcd Aug 2018 #59

I know little about her and I found the comment easy enough to read mythology Aug 2018 #90

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #92

No one, with a basic knowledge of US history on immigation Ms. Toad Aug 2018 #111

No explanation is needed except for those who are being disingenuous to attack the Dem candidate. nt Humanist_Activist Aug 2018 #69

I'm not a huge fan of hers qazplm135 Aug 2018 #82

What is her sin here? Tweets by nature WhiteTara Aug 2018 #86

The only sin here is one of omission. The OP left out part of the tweet Autumn Aug 2018 #87

'Quite finished with this subject' melman Aug 2018 #93

Nyuk nyuk. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #112

Not difficult... GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #3

" H2O Man Aug 2018 #6

yeah, sure heaven05 Aug 2018 #7

It is said that H2O Man Aug 2018 #15

+ + really .. ICE is not that old of an agency and deportation was taking place long before ICE lunasun Aug 2018 #32

Exactly right. H2O Man Aug 2018 #43

Sad, indeed pecosbob Aug 2018 #73

ICE was created in 2003. Deportation existed prior to 2003. George II Aug 2018 #66

Right. H2O Man Aug 2018 #68

It sounds as if she is OK with continuing general deportation policies, lapucelle Aug 2018 #80

She was replying to a specific challenge about the deportation of an actual Nazi muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #88

How does that context change an interpretation that lapucelle Aug 2018 #89

because deporting a Nazi over war crimes is not "general deportation policies" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #95

The federal statute lists such cases as within "GENERAL CLASSES OF DEPORTABLE ALIENS". lapucelle Aug 2018 #97

Do you understand what "within" means? That's it's different from "is identical to"? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #98

Wait...what? What are you talking about? lapucelle Aug 2018 #99

"within" comes from your own reply title #97. I don't think you understand how to use it muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #100

So your is your argument that AOC is not OK with the general classes of deportable aliens lapucelle Aug 2018 #101

I'm saying it's wrong to generalise from "deporting a Nazi is OK" or muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #102

So your argument is that AOC is not or may not be lapucelle Aug 2018 #103

She may or may not be, and you can't decide from her tweet. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #104

I don't use Wiki articles as a reference for logic and rhetoric; lapucelle Aug 2018 #107

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #108

Your original quibble concerned the word "within" lapucelle Aug 2018 #109

Just dialing it back. joshcryer Aug 2018 #4

It's a losing issue. If you're explaining, you're losing. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #8

Get the spin out there for Name Recognition & others will explain what was actually said Wwcd Aug 2018 #11

exactly heaven05 Aug 2018 #14

Are you asserting that anyone who crosses the border should be allowed to stay? brooklynite Aug 2018 #10

No heaven05 Aug 2018 #13

+ a million.. Smack dab Spot on. Wwcd Aug 2018 #30

The criticism seems to be that AOC clarified that removing ICE didn't mean ending deportation... brooklynite Aug 2018 #40

If they're doing so legally hell yes they deserve to stay !!! uponit7771 Aug 2018 #38

ICE is relativity new. demmiblue Aug 2018 #12

I am not trying to divide heaven05 Aug 2018 #19

Lol. n/t demmiblue Aug 2018 #23

yeah heaven05 Aug 2018 #36

ICE was formed in 2003. We've been deporting people like war criminals long before that. Kaleva Aug 2018 #16

"It does not mean abolish deportation." gratuitous Aug 2018 #17

Well, I hope heaven05 Aug 2018 #21

It's simple, plain English gratuitous Aug 2018 #24

I DID NOT read heaven05 Aug 2018 #25

I never said you did read something into her statement gratuitous Aug 2018 #28

I lulz'd KG Aug 2018 #18

Gretchen Whitmer, Dem candidate for gov of Michigan, is also being attacked on the ICE issue Kaleva Aug 2018 #20

RW BS heaven05 Aug 2018 #31

Your OP makes it look like you are pushing RW talking points then. Kaleva Aug 2018 #33

It means there are some people that will still be deported even without ICE Downtown Hound Aug 2018 #22

Simple for sure. heaven05 Aug 2018 #26

Fine. Downtown Hound Aug 2018 #46

I guess she could have clarified further "...deportation (of actual criminals)". flibbitygiblets Aug 2018 #27

Someone said both-sideism heaven05 Aug 2018 #44

Why are you desperately looking for a way to attack a Democratic candidate? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #61

I honestly don't understand what you are asking. HopeAgain Aug 2018 #29

not nervous heaven05 Aug 2018 #34

"Can one of her suporters tell me,"???? As a Dem nominee, we ALL support her. Kaleva Aug 2018 #35

good heaven05 Aug 2018 #41

As the TOS is clear that we support all Dem candiates, and AOC is one, it makes no sense... Kaleva Aug 2018 #48

Maybe you shouldn't have indicated that you are not one of her supporters? Demit Aug 2018 #50

No rec lunasun Aug 2018 #37

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #42

That's fine, but why start a thread attempting to misconstrue what she means? FSogol Aug 2018 #54

Does she even realize it's CPB and not ICE that is separating families? Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #39

Depends. CPB operates within a 100 miles of the border. Kaleva Aug 2018 #45

The Consumer Protection Bureau is separating families? Jake Stern Aug 2018 #60

I would suggest she would use a different argument than "abolish deportations". haele Aug 2018 #47

"One of her supporters" She is the Democratic candidate. vi5 Aug 2018 #52

Indeed...as the Democratic candidate, we should ALL be supporters pecosbob Aug 2018 #74

Don't Care maxrandb Aug 2018 #55

In context, because heaven05 hid that from everyone on DU: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #62

Interesting. AOC seems to be threatening to some on here. I wonder why? jalan48 Aug 2018 #64

Interesting how that was left out. Gives clear insight to an agenda. Autumn Aug 2018 #70

That certainly makes the OP JackInGreen Aug 2018 #79

Thanks, muriel_volestrangler. demmiblue Aug 2018 #85

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #65

It's not a reading comprehension problem. It's an agenda Autumn Aug 2018 #75

It is sad to see hit pieces on progressives on this site Marrah_Goodman Aug 2018 #67

Good to see you! QC Aug 2018 #71

Thanks Q! Marrah_Goodman Aug 2018 #72

Who cares? beachbum bob Aug 2018 #76

November is more important than these type agendas empedocles Aug 2018 #77

You couldn't have the decency JackInGreen Aug 2018 #78

I thought we were all her supporters klook Aug 2018 #81

It refers to people that committ actual crimes being deported. Blue_true Aug 2018 #83

She was responding to this tweet... borgesian Aug 2018 #84

There actually ARE people who need to be deported. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2018 #91

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #94

You seem smugly pleased with the shit your disingenous OP stirred up muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #96

You should check yourself before you Cha Aug 2018 #110

The problem isn't the name on the department. It's the behavior. Renew Deal Aug 2018 #105