So where will the extra $16 trillion come from to pay for Sanders' plan?

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106. The reaction by many to any factchecking or dissent from their leader's statments

is very similar on the far left, and far right.

It's obvious from the rage from many supporters of either that meets fact checking that doesn't flatter their leader.

Armies of strawmen being attacked, the accusations of "hater!" and "You just don't want people to have healthcare/America to be great!" appear on cue. It's up there with conspiracy level stuff.

You sound pretty scared by Bernie being fact checked, almost as if M4A and/or Bernie wouldn't be able to survive it, and need to be protected from any hint of questioning.

Really sounds like the far right.

See, I've worked on Capitol Hill in progressive orgs- and I can tell you that there are people fighting the good fight who are totally unlikeable in person. It's a sad fact that many progressive movement leaders and politicians are rude, abusive to their staff, and real pains in the ass.

That taught me to separate the person from the job they were doing. I don't need to "fall in love" with an org leader or pol to support the work they are doing, and acknowledge that they get the job done. I don't want to work in an office with them, but I'll give them their due. I also don't feel a need to decide between 'hating" and "loving" a public figure. Not in my nature - especially knowing a few famous people.

The job of POTUS is not a job that many people are really capable of doing well - it's stressful, requires the stamina for long hours, needs a temprament that is very even, a graduate degree, experience with government buearacracy, an experienced and broad world view, an ability to take counsel and know where to find it, the ability to sit at the table with the most powerful people in the world and in the US without resorting to pouting and name-calling, the ability to CHANGE ONE"S MIND, the ability to know one's own shortcomings, transparent with one's personal finances and not pissy at being vetted or asked questions about their past, the support and respect of one's peers in federal government and party leaderships, and to be humble

Ideally, they are charismatic, but that's hasn't been a requirement in the past, for men at least...

But no, I don't "hate" people who are not up to the task, but if they put their own self-validation and resentment ahead of the good of the country, yeah, they lose my respect.