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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
39. I can't help you...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 01:52 PM
Aug 2018
The fact you or anybody can infer that I did is beyond incomprehensible.
I can't help you. What you're describing is the fault of the writer, not the reader.

There was nothing in my seminal post that suggests I believe that anybody but Trump and his rabid devotees are responsible for the toxic atmosphere we unfortunately find ourselves in.
I disagree. Nobody needs to validate them by reconciling with them. It is THEY who need to reconcile and make amends. There's NO NEED for anyone to reach out and utter "let's be friends again" or "let's let bygones be bygones". Hell no! FUCK NO!

They are the ones who need to apologize and make amends. THAT will be the "light". I won't offer any sort of blanket-forgiveness to anyone who doesn't first seek it sincerely. NO FREE PASSES! No "it was partially out fault too".

We have become a bitter nation.
This is the sentence in your OP where it all starts to fall apart, where you're blaming "everyone" and not putting the fault squarely at the feet of Trump and his supporters. You said "we" and you said "nation"... that's everyone. It's an inclusive admonition that suggests we all have have a chip on our shoulder. You're also finding fault with OUR side... as if our anger and bitterness isn't justified, as if WE are the ones to blame and if only we'd been more understanding. (This plays into the "both sides" nonsense.)

...but America desperately needs healing
In this sentence, the message is clear. No matter how awful Trump is and no matter how much you personally hate him, you believe American needs healing (and therefore, we should be the ones to make conciliatory gestures to them.)

Obviously THEY aren't going to make the first gesture. Clearly there are only two sides here: Us and Them. So if we know for a fact that THEY will never budge, then your message is one that's suggesting that WE should be the ones to take some high road and validate them.

Not only NO, but HELL NO! Screw them! I'd rather drink an earthworm smoothie.

As Martin Luther king mused " Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
Oh, good lord! Sure, whatever... Let's love our enemy and show them the light. Surely we can set a good example and our forgiveness will help them to come around and love us all again.

Let us be called the children of light.
Kumbaya.

No! Fuck them! No free passes! No apologies. No validations. No sympathies. No high road.

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Can't heal until the cancer is gone htuttle Aug 2018 #1
Agree...and then reprogramming people who have been in a cult unitedwethrive Aug 2018 #6
Impossible in some instances Rorey Aug 2018 #13
Maybe Trump is not the cancer, but only the lesion. Ron Green Aug 2018 #16
The cancer is AM hate radio and Fox News. Initech Aug 2018 #52
Trump is just a particularly prominent boil. Crunchy Frog Aug 2018 #61
The healing will come through justice DavidDvorkin Aug 2018 #2
How about restorative justice ? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #4
Meaning? DavidDvorkin Aug 2018 #8
Restorative Justice atreides1 Aug 2018 #30
That sounds fine to me DavidDvorkin Aug 2018 #37
AMEN!! That's the way its technically supposed to be; we seek justice we'll get peace uponit7771 Aug 2018 #17
Healing often requires more than simply one mechanism. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #27
I like the sentiment but asking someone who viciously and violently hates all Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #3
I think we have been pretty bitter, historically. It's a consistent theme. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #5
Just forgive, forget, and move on? NOW? dalton99a Aug 2018 #7
I don't think I said that. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #15
I do agree. Rorey Aug 2018 #9
Excising the tumor is the first step toward healing. MineralMan Aug 2018 #10
+1. First, get rid of the malignancy. dalton99a Aug 2018 #12
We got started as the dead-end dumping ground for England's religious fanatics Aristus Aug 2018 #11
There's something more honest about a straightforward criminal, lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #43
Red Don took the children of those seeking help by the 1000's where some where sexually abused, sick uponit7771 Aug 2018 #14
Can we remove the ongoing threat to our nation first before we forgive and forget? eShirl Aug 2018 #18
It sounds like you're blaming the victim... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #19
How is this blaming the victim ? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #20
I don't like repeating myself. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #22
You seem to have developed some animus toward me. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #25
No I haven't. This isn't about you personally... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #28
If DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #31
I've done no such thing. If your OP lacks clarity, whose fault is that? NurseJackie Aug 2018 #35
There was nothing... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #36
I can't help you... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #39
If I wanted to say both sides are equally to blame I would have said so DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #40
Doesn't matter. Your meaning was clear... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #41
I want restorative justice. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #42
That's a sign of weakness that they'll exploit. I want to DESTROY them.... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #47
Having them publicly confess to their wrongdoing is not letting them off easily. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #48
... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #49
Dr. King won freedom for his people without ever giving in to hate DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #50
It's a great way to flatter one's own self, but it's a sign of weakness... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #53
+1. Right now if you extend a hand of friendship to them, they'll steal your watch dalton99a Aug 2018 #21
Exactly! Well said! NurseJackie Aug 2018 #24
Trump and company has to be gone and that will go a long way toward healing. shraby Aug 2018 #23
Become? It was always there... HipChick Aug 2018 #26
We must make the propaganda engine accountable too Thunderbeast Aug 2018 #29
How can there be healing when awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #32
Sure, if it goes back to 1968 bigbrother05 Aug 2018 #33
We are in this position because the GOP was never properly punished for Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr & Jr. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #44
Yes...we do need to heal sagetea Aug 2018 #34
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Snotcicles Aug 2018 #38
Screw That! NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #45
We need a purge edhopper Aug 2018 #46
i don't understand the use of "but" in your OP title 0rganism Aug 2018 #51
Thank you!! NurseJackie Aug 2018 #56
After Trump is a chained and made to parade naked on 5th Avenue Le Gaucher Aug 2018 #54
I kinda get what you're saying.... spicysista Aug 2018 #55
Thank you for the thoughtful response. I wish I could be as thoughtful in response. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #57
Oh, stop! I'm just long-winded! LOL! spicysista Aug 2018 #58
I might feel differently tomorrow but today I am weary from hating. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #59
Sometimes things have to be broken in order to be properly repaired. spicysista Aug 2018 #62
As of yet, there is nothing happening at the same level of horror Crunchy Frog Aug 2018 #60
I would rather have revolutionary tribunals MyNameGoesHere Aug 2018 #63
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