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NurseJackie

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53. It's a great way to flatter one's own self, but it's a sign of weakness...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:42 PM
Aug 2018

It's a great way to flatter one's own self, but it's a sign of weakness that they'll always exploit.

Nobody can go lower than a Deplorable.
Don't be so sure. When faced with life or death situations, I can certainly go low in my quest to destroy them. Why let them have the upper hand just so that I can pat myself on the back (in defeat) and try to console myself (in defeat) by pretending that I'm better than them (in defeat) simply because I was unwilling to fight back... because I had to live up to some unrealistic ideal of "going high".

It's also practical advice.
No it's not. Why would ANYONE want to willingly give them an advantage?

There's nothing at all practical about it. (Unless being defeated and giving in to the enemy is something that's viewed as honorable or desirable.) I mean, "WE GO HIGH" is fine for a bumper sticker slogan... but in the real world, it's a losing philosophy... that's all I'm saying.

I think most reasonable people understand this too. But, I suppose when someone is so emotionally invested in this argument with me that it's difficult to admit that they're wrong and that they overplayed their hand... at that point, all reason flies out the window.

It has nothing to do "both sideism"
Of course it does. I can read. I'm not stupid. I'm not willing to to concede by giving in and coddling them. I'm not going to flatter them or validate their bigotry. I refuse to give forgiveness that was never asked for and that isn't deserved.

Anyone making that argument is also suggesting their belief (or a suspicion) that our side is equally to blame and equally culpable as the other side. Hence... my very strong objections to the "both sides" philosophy.

Overall, what's being proposed here, in the OP and throughout, is a weak and losing strategy. So glad that I'm not the only one who sees it. And not the only one who takes issue with the entire premise of your OP (along with all the various tweaks you're giving it along the way.) I'm not entirely sure why it is you feel compelled to have the "last word" only with me, however.

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Can't heal until the cancer is gone htuttle Aug 2018 #1
Agree...and then reprogramming people who have been in a cult unitedwethrive Aug 2018 #6
Impossible in some instances Rorey Aug 2018 #13
Maybe Trump is not the cancer, but only the lesion. Ron Green Aug 2018 #16
The cancer is AM hate radio and Fox News. Initech Aug 2018 #52
Trump is just a particularly prominent boil. Crunchy Frog Aug 2018 #61
The healing will come through justice DavidDvorkin Aug 2018 #2
How about restorative justice ? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #4
Meaning? DavidDvorkin Aug 2018 #8
Restorative Justice atreides1 Aug 2018 #30
That sounds fine to me DavidDvorkin Aug 2018 #37
AMEN!! That's the way its technically supposed to be; we seek justice we'll get peace uponit7771 Aug 2018 #17
Healing often requires more than simply one mechanism. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #27
I like the sentiment but asking someone who viciously and violently hates all Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #3
I think we have been pretty bitter, historically. It's a consistent theme. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #5
Just forgive, forget, and move on? NOW? dalton99a Aug 2018 #7
I don't think I said that. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #15
I do agree. Rorey Aug 2018 #9
Excising the tumor is the first step toward healing. MineralMan Aug 2018 #10
+1. First, get rid of the malignancy. dalton99a Aug 2018 #12
We got started as the dead-end dumping ground for England's religious fanatics Aristus Aug 2018 #11
There's something more honest about a straightforward criminal, lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #43
Red Don took the children of those seeking help by the 1000's where some where sexually abused, sick uponit7771 Aug 2018 #14
Can we remove the ongoing threat to our nation first before we forgive and forget? eShirl Aug 2018 #18
It sounds like you're blaming the victim... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #19
How is this blaming the victim ? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #20
I don't like repeating myself. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #22
You seem to have developed some animus toward me. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #25
No I haven't. This isn't about you personally... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #28
If DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #31
I've done no such thing. If your OP lacks clarity, whose fault is that? NurseJackie Aug 2018 #35
There was nothing... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #36
I can't help you... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #39
If I wanted to say both sides are equally to blame I would have said so DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #40
Doesn't matter. Your meaning was clear... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #41
I want restorative justice. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #42
That's a sign of weakness that they'll exploit. I want to DESTROY them.... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #47
Having them publicly confess to their wrongdoing is not letting them off easily. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #48
... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #49
Dr. King won freedom for his people without ever giving in to hate DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #50
It's a great way to flatter one's own self, but it's a sign of weakness... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #53
+1. Right now if you extend a hand of friendship to them, they'll steal your watch dalton99a Aug 2018 #21
Exactly! Well said! NurseJackie Aug 2018 #24
Trump and company has to be gone and that will go a long way toward healing. shraby Aug 2018 #23
Become? It was always there... HipChick Aug 2018 #26
We must make the propaganda engine accountable too Thunderbeast Aug 2018 #29
How can there be healing when awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #32
Sure, if it goes back to 1968 bigbrother05 Aug 2018 #33
We are in this position because the GOP was never properly punished for Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr & Jr. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #44
Yes...we do need to heal sagetea Aug 2018 #34
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Snotcicles Aug 2018 #38
Screw That! NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #45
We need a purge edhopper Aug 2018 #46
i don't understand the use of "but" in your OP title 0rganism Aug 2018 #51
Thank you!! NurseJackie Aug 2018 #56
After Trump is a chained and made to parade naked on 5th Avenue Le Gaucher Aug 2018 #54
I kinda get what you're saying.... spicysista Aug 2018 #55
Thank you for the thoughtful response. I wish I could be as thoughtful in response. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #57
Oh, stop! I'm just long-winded! LOL! spicysista Aug 2018 #58
I might feel differently tomorrow but today I am weary from hating. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #59
Sometimes things have to be broken in order to be properly repaired. spicysista Aug 2018 #62
As of yet, there is nothing happening at the same level of horror Crunchy Frog Aug 2018 #60
I would rather have revolutionary tribunals MyNameGoesHere Aug 2018 #63
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