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In reply to the discussion: I despise Trump with the heat of a thousand suns but America desperately needs healing. [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)53. It's a great way to flatter one's own self, but it's a sign of weakness...
It's a great way to flatter one's own self, but it's a sign of weakness that they'll always exploit.
Nobody can go lower than a Deplorable.
Don't be so sure. When faced with life or death situations, I can certainly go low in my quest to destroy them. Why let them have the upper hand just so that I can pat myself on the back (in defeat) and try to console myself (in defeat) by pretending that I'm better than them (in defeat) simply because I was unwilling to fight back... because I had to live up to some unrealistic ideal of "going high".
It's also practical advice.
No it's not. Why would ANYONE want to willingly give them an advantage?
There's nothing at all practical about it. (Unless being defeated and giving in to the enemy is something that's viewed as honorable or desirable.) I mean, "WE GO HIGH" is fine for a bumper sticker slogan... but in the real world, it's a losing philosophy... that's all I'm saying.
I think most reasonable people understand this too. But, I suppose when someone is so emotionally invested in this argument with me that it's difficult to admit that they're wrong and that they overplayed their hand... at that point, all reason flies out the window.
It has nothing to do "both sideism"
Of course it does. I can read. I'm not stupid. I'm not willing to to concede by giving in and coddling them. I'm not going to flatter them or validate their bigotry. I refuse to give forgiveness that was never asked for and that isn't deserved.
Anyone making that argument is also suggesting their belief (or a suspicion) that our side is equally to blame and equally culpable as the other side. Hence... my very strong objections to the "both sides" philosophy.
Overall, what's being proposed here, in the OP and throughout, is a weak and losing strategy. So glad that I'm not the only one who sees it. And not the only one who takes issue with the entire premise of your OP (along with all the various tweaks you're giving it along the way.) I'm not entirely sure why it is you feel compelled to have the "last word" only with me, however.
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I despise Trump with the heat of a thousand suns but America desperately needs healing. [View all]
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2018
OP
AMEN!! That's the way its technically supposed to be; we seek justice we'll get peace
uponit7771
Aug 2018
#17
I like the sentiment but asking someone who viciously and violently hates all
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2018
#3
Red Don took the children of those seeking help by the 1000's where some where sexually abused, sick
uponit7771
Aug 2018
#14
Can we remove the ongoing threat to our nation first before we forgive and forget?
eShirl
Aug 2018
#18
If I wanted to say both sides are equally to blame I would have said so
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2018
#40
Having them publicly confess to their wrongdoing is not letting them off easily.
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2018
#48
+1. Right now if you extend a hand of friendship to them, they'll steal your watch
dalton99a
Aug 2018
#21
We are in this position because the GOP was never properly punished for Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr & Jr.
lagomorph777
Aug 2018
#44
Thank you for the thoughtful response. I wish I could be as thoughtful in response.
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2018
#57