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TreasonousBastard

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16. Libertarianism may be dead, but it had little to do with Rand..
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 01:30 PM
Aug 2018

She hated libertarians and considered them nothing more than anarchists.

It's easy to confuse her presumably enlightened self-interest with simple license, but she seems to have thought that humans were smart enough to expand their individual self-interest to something more social. Kind of like a "group" self interest. Altruists were idiotic, she said, but she did work out an Objectivist ethical system. Of course, her Objectivist groupies seemed quite robotic-- kind of like the present day fanatics we all know and love.

Alas, her ethical system was as confused as her epistemology-- it seemed to be going around in circles.

Anyway, although she would have hated to hear it said that she was a lot like Marx, she did seem to share his understanding of many problems, but, also like him, her solutions were just nuts.

And never forget that she ended up going on Medicare and Social Security during her last days.

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Libertarianism is officially dead [View all] DemocracyMouse Aug 2018 OP
It was never alive...In the first place. False beliefs based on false values beachbum bob Aug 2018 #1
I've always associated Libertarianism with greed The Genealogist Aug 2018 #2
So agree that a libertarian society would not be sustainable. Hortensis Aug 2018 #23
Hmmm. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #27
Good thing there are relatively few of the real thing. Hortensis Aug 2018 #34
Ayn-Randism is objectivism, not libertarianism. More correctly termed Selfishness & Narcissism. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #3
Objectivism indeed Brawndo Aug 2018 #6
I Agree, And I love this quote njhoneybadger Aug 2018 #8
Great quote and goes to the heart of the philosophy Brawndo Aug 2018 #11
There is no doubt that her philosophy had some major flaws and contradictions njhoneybadger Aug 2018 #14
Agreed Brawndo Aug 2018 #15
her ideology was a result of her childhood experience AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #35
Works well for an individual? Bullshit. Adrahil Aug 2018 #10
A distinction is necessary Brawndo Aug 2018 #13
weasel words. Adrahil Aug 2018 #18
Nice unnecessary use of invective there Brawndo Aug 2018 #19
Exhibit A: Rand Paul dalton99a Aug 2018 #4
Libertarianism is just a modern form of Feudalism. MicaelS Aug 2018 #5
No. Nothing like feudalism. No inherited aspect of government, at all. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #7
Well, not everything you wrote is incorrect. PETRUS Aug 2018 #20
Not everything you wrote is incorrect. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #21
Sophistry. PETRUS Aug 2018 #24
Sophistry. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #25
Okay....? PETRUS Aug 2018 #26
I get your point and I supported my argument and contradicted yours. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #30
Not that I can see. Want to try again, using more or different words? nt PETRUS Aug 2018 #33
I would add Social Responsibility to your formula Yavin4 Aug 2018 #9
A civic infrastructure, since it is civic, is by definition socially responsible DemocracyMouse Aug 2018 #36
Social responsibility needs to be explicitly stated Yavin4 Aug 2018 #38
By definition, there can be no libertarian society lindysalsagal Aug 2018 #12
I remember back in college when these geniuses "discovered"... TreasonousBastard Aug 2018 #17
Libertarians are fine with roads, clean water, courts, laws, schools, banks, legal currency and insp Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #22
Libertarianism may be dead, but it had little to do with Rand.. TreasonousBastard Aug 2018 #16
hmm. interesting. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #29
Not really. Its economic policies have taken over the Republican party. pnwmom Aug 2018 #28
On another forum years ago, Onyrleft Aug 2018 #32
Ayn Rand??? I would love to hear more thoughts about what I said about ALL panaceas - DemocracyMouse Aug 2018 #37
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