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Lee-Lee

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26. There was nothing that made this harder to check that was done
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:55 AM
Aug 2018

What made it impossible to check is his parents didn’t have home involuntary committed at any point to get it on the record and get him into NICS. They instead chose to go the private route to keep him “out of the system”.

His parents refused to do that. They refused to have charges pressed on any of the 25+ tiems that law enforcement was called to the home because of his actions. His mental health provider testified in the divorce trial the kid was a danger of being violent, especially to the Mom, but failed to report that danger to authorities.

A background check is worthless if it isn’t backed up by data. If the system isn’t informed a person is a danger it can’t bar anything. That’s my whole point here- nobody who was in a position to make that happen, especially the parents, did so.

The only thing that happened recently had nothing to do with cases like this. It was a move to stop declaring every single person who had a representative payee in Social Security to automatically be mentally ill to the point of being a danger- a bad policy that was so bad even the ACLU said it was bad. It had no bearing on this case and saying is did is dishonest at best.

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That poor family! redwitch Aug 2018 #1
+1 Anon-C Aug 2018 #27
They did everything except the one thing they should have Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #2
It's same old, same old. LisaL Aug 2018 #3
Because nobody used the tools in place Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #8
The same old story is blaming the parents. McCamy Taylor Aug 2018 #4
This is a shitty take. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #5
I agree... the poster is reading a lot into the situation. demmiblue Aug 2018 #7
The police probably did Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #9
If GUNS weren't legal, the whole thing would not have happened. Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #6
No, it would have happened. Maybe just differently Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #10
I don't think anyone is arguing the guy would be peaceful. kcr Aug 2018 #13
Your arguments, intended as serious, are weak Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #15
Yeah, I know. I talk about viable solutions, you live in fantasy land Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #16
I like to point out the destructive selfishness of gun owners Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #17
Ok, have fun never winning anything Calculating Aug 2018 #21
Who said he would be peaceful if guns were illegal? NCTraveler Aug 2018 #20
No one said that. Mariana Aug 2018 #35
It's so GREAT how you have "parenting" all figured out lostnfound Aug 2018 #31
That fucking simple n/t malaise Aug 2018 #14
You then believe one, and only one option was available to the parents? LanternWaste Aug 2018 #11
No, there were many options that were not mutually exclusive Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #12
My brother could have been that kid ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #18
There are few hospitals for anyone these days... Demsrule86 Aug 2018 #23
There was nothing that made this harder to check that was done Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #26
No, it's the guns. hunter Aug 2018 #25
Shouldn't the law enforcement and judicial system exboyfil Aug 2018 #28
It's harder for LE if the parents don't want it done Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #29
I wonder if they tried the new red flag laws to take away guns temporarily aikoaiko Aug 2018 #19
I had a dear friend in the same situation. If you think family money is the answer, think again... Hekate Aug 2018 #22
Remember the wealthy state Virginia Senator who's son stabbed or shot him forget which Demsrule86 Aug 2018 #24
Almost happened to Katherine Ross and Sam Elliot. bettyellen Aug 2018 #30
That is right...I forgot that. Demsrule86 Aug 2018 #32
Creigh Deeds mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #33
That's sad, H2O Man Aug 2018 #34
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