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MineralMan

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123. Thanks. That's always been my opinion.

Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:42 PM

Aug 2012

One school district in a suburb of the Twin Cities is handing out iPads to every student, starting with middle school. Meantime, the high school near my urban home is full of students who don't even have a computer at home, and the school's computer lab is full of out-dated equipment and the school has a lousy internet service. One can afford to hand out $500 pieces of technology, while the other tells kids to go to the local library and use one of their six public PCs.

The difference sucks! The people living in that suburb can afford to buy their kids iPods. Median family income there is over $100K.

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This Is What A $60 Million High School Football Stadium Looks Like [View all] FarCenter Aug 2012 OP

When Texas turns Hispanic they can use it for the real football tularetom Aug 2012 #1

Real boring football, 90 minutes for a 1-1 tie. No thanks. Logical Aug 2012 #19

Oy vey. At least with 'football' as the word is used globally, there's coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #22

Well, you are in a minority in my country. n-t Logical Aug 2012 #29

High school football is is the 2nd most popular religion in Texas. crimson77 Aug 2012 #31

It's the first. There's a lot of lip service to the nominal first, but... JHB Aug 2012 #44

It's my country too (I think). I happen to find American coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #37

My son loves soccer, I just can't get into it. No doubt the.... Logical Aug 2012 #41

I've always thought basketball was THE most "stop and start" sport out there. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #83

Yeah, you've got a point there (about the final two minutes of bb games). I don't coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #94

you're right. real football just fills those voids with two guys passing the ball back and forth.. frylock Aug 2012 #35

LOL - Yeah, I think you have a point. I prefer basketball if coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #38

golf for sure.. frylock Aug 2012 #61

LOL. The grunting, when interspersed with the rhythmic thwack of coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #95

So you crave action, and the cure is...soccer? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #50

I actually find sports pretty boring in general and if I am going coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #93

Ya I thought the same thing Missycim Aug 2012 #97

I find it kinda fascinating how cranky Americans get about soccer. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #80

What "rest of the world" are you talking about? Drahthaardogs Aug 2012 #85

Don't mean to bore you with pedantry here, but when I taught English as a Second Language coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #108

American football -- 10 seconds of violence nichomachus Aug 2012 #109

LOL - that's a good one! Thanks! - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #110

Well---if you like a flop a minute... trumad Aug 2012 #114

Screw 'globally'. I want my NFL. Zax2me Aug 2012 #124

Cool. Zax2me Aug 2012 #125

Do you dislike baseball as well? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #69

At least no ties! Logical Aug 2012 #73

Why you think the "bit of biffo" on the way home? Gotta decide somehow. TheMadMonk Aug 2012 #77

Hmm. Kind of easy to get higher scores when each goal counts 3 points or 6-7 points and there are yellowcanine Aug 2012 #98

Sorry Missycim Aug 2012 #40

You've never watched cricket have you. GoneOffShore Aug 2012 #89

Well if truth be Missycim Aug 2012 #99

I don't suppose jehop61 Aug 2012 #2

Texas, the state where high school football is God madaboutharry Aug 2012 #5

And where they execute people with an IQ of 61 - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #23

Maybe the high school should add STEM and Chinese classes alp227 Aug 2012 #53

+1 Scuba Aug 2012 #6

You forget this is the state where the school board voted to write actual history out of history textbooks. Initech Aug 2012 #25

Already Did Something Similar erpowers Aug 2012 #49

In Texas, cloudbase Aug 2012 #52

Facts are never welcome when a good old fashioned Texas-bashing is underway. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #55

I agree with you 100% Missycim Aug 2012 #100

Allen is building a new elementary this year. ag_dude Aug 2012 #65

I'm sure if there was a bond issue for something that really dealt with education WI_DEM Aug 2012 #3

What would happen Missycim Aug 2012 #42

My opinion is that there's something terribly wrong with that. MineralMan Aug 2012 #4

You would first have to understand the school funding crisis in Texas that has existed as long as I Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #70

We have similar situations here in the Twin Cities MineralMan Aug 2012 #87

I think it is an atrocity Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #91

I dont get it Missycim Aug 2012 #102

No, not at all. MineralMan Aug 2012 #119

Very well said, sir. hifiguy Aug 2012 #122

Thanks. That's always been my opinion. MineralMan Aug 2012 #123

It highlights the problem of supporting schools by local property taxes Kaleva Aug 2012 #96

Exactly. Some states have that, but it funds all schools at MineralMan Aug 2012 #118

I think I'll fire off an e-mail to my state Representative and Senator Kaleva Aug 2012 #120

That's a start, for sure. MineralMan Aug 2012 #121

They can't afford to pay their teachers, or even pencils and paper, but they can afford this? RC Aug 2012 #7

It appears to be a well funded high performing school in a wealthy school district hack89 Aug 2012 #11

it looks like they can afford it Missycim Aug 2012 #43

I don't see the problem. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #8

I wonder what the classrooms look like? Remmah2 Aug 2012 #9

It appears to be a very well funded high performing school hack89 Aug 2012 #12

Several of their notable alumni have gone on to college or pro football careers FarCenter Aug 2012 #13

Most Pro Football Careers Last 3.5 Years or Less Yavin4 Aug 2012 #21

yeah and? Eksess Aug 2012 #17

And they have 8000 season ticket holders and sell 10,000 more tickets per game. hack89 Aug 2012 #26

some people fail to see the forest for the trees Missycim Aug 2012 #46

All Around Good School erpowers Aug 2012 #15

Great for funding other schools in the DFW area... uponit7771 Aug 2012 #30

unfortunately that isnt how Texas Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #71

Those blighted schools Missycim Aug 2012 #104

I am reminded of the movie "Friday Night Lights"... Odin2005 Aug 2012 #10

Any idea of graduation rate? Books they teach from? I mean the things that really,, benld74 Aug 2012 #14

A Few Examples erpowers Aug 2012 #34

Allen is actually a really nice school. ag_dude Aug 2012 #66

Taxpayer money... Taxpayer approved. I've got no problem with it. OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #16

If even one kid dropped or flunked out in that school the entire approving board should be fired 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #18

The entire "approving board" is the local population. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #20

A great way to bring the community together for some fun... NCTraveler Aug 2012 #24

So is feeding the poor. 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #36

I agree. NCTraveler Aug 2012 #39

dont forget Missycim Aug 2012 #47

I ran a HS football game concession stand for four years.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #56

well either or Missycim Aug 2012 #57

That stadium is small, only has 1 jumbo tron, the HS were I live in TX has 2.... uponit7771 Aug 2012 #27

high school football, church, and jesus dinosaurs datasuspect Aug 2012 #28

and so the products of this rich school system will be compared with the products of schools with no dembotoz Aug 2012 #32

Yep. n/t Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #72

I'm way behind the curve NV Whino Aug 2012 #33

You're roughly 40 years behind the curve. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #48

Ha! That sounds about right. NV Whino Aug 2012 #67

Whether it was voted on or not, hifiguy Aug 2012 #45

"The $60 million stadium was part of a $119 million bond package muntrv Aug 2012 #51

How is voters approving a bond issue socialism? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #54

I am scratching my Missycim Aug 2012 #105

Even the poor students at that school (if there are any) will get to use the $60M facilities.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #111

I knew it would be Texas. I work with a company that does biz with schools in Texas. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #58

As someone born & raised in Texas tammywammy Aug 2012 #64

Obsession with high school football, AT THE EXPENSE of academics and even other sports.... YoungDemCA Aug 2012 #59

But not in this case, evidently. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #60

Since you seem to know so much about it, please do tell... WillowTree Aug 2012 #86

You dont seem to Missycim Aug 2012 #106

I understand that perfectly. It's the person I was replying to who doesn't get it. WillowTree Aug 2012 #126

WOW....how nice is that.... ileus Aug 2012 #62

Let me guess . . . Brigid Aug 2012 #63

My high school (class of 1975) is still using the same football field and bleachers it had in 1922 slackmaster Aug 2012 #68

WOW! that's a fancy stadium. This is where fans sit to watch California HS games Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 #74

Holy crap. I didn't realize the interior was so posh. tanyev Aug 2012 #75

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #76

And they still got shitty textbooks. nt rrneck Aug 2012 #78

Yep. I imagine they'd freak if asked to pay for teachers or educational materials. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #113

No K-12 school, anywhere, needs or deserves a $60 million stadium. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #79

If the tax payers in that town want to pay for it, more power to them Missycim Aug 2012 #107

And what actual useful things are they shortchanging for their little temple? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #112

Why does everything have Missycim Aug 2012 #115

A k-12 school burning $60 million on unrelated expenditures is a complete waste, full stop. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #116

I think a lot of people forget that you have to pay to get into a football game. Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #127

Jesus. The Columbus Crew built the first MLS soccer-specific stadium back in '98 for half that. nt Codeine Aug 2012 #81

As obscene as that stadium is, I am NOT surprised freethought Aug 2012 #82

The Allen Stadium is fairly modest, the one where I live in TX is bigger has 2 jumbo trons uponit7771 Aug 2012 #103

Does football bring in enough money to justify this sort of crap? RedCappedBandit Aug 2012 #84

no, not hs football uponit7771 Aug 2012 #101

That is obscene. n/t Pithlet Aug 2012 #88

This seems to be a good investment WinniSkipper Aug 2012 #90

Allen, Texas, has more money than they know what to do with jmowreader Aug 2012 #92

That is frighteningly common in Tejas. Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #117