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regnaD kciN

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7. I'm confused as to how 538 is evaluating that poll...
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:40 PM
Aug 2018

...since, if you click on the link next to it, it shows a quite different picture. They list the rolling average between August 21-27 as 40% approval, but, by the graph itself, it would indicate the rolling average as of the 27th was 38.1% approval, while indicating it's a rolling total, not just that day's portion thereof.

The main issue here is "craters" -- one might say that, since Trump's approval rating has remained a couple of points on either side of 40% practically since he took office, any variance is less a matter of "cratering" and more the standard MoE at play. However, if you look at Ipsos' own graph, you see a very noticeable movement over the past week over approval/disapproval.

8/20 42.9 52.5
8/21 42.1 54.1
8/22 40.4 54.3
8/23 39.1 55.5
8/24 38.6 55.9
8/25 38.7 55.6
8/26 38.3 55.9
8/27 38.1 55.9

Looking at those numbers, there's little statistical "noise" to be seen, just a steady drop, from a disapproval margin of +9.6% to +17.8 over the course of last week. Does that mean that Trump can't rebound? No. But it does mean that the events of last week seem to have had a definite effect that can't be explained away as simple random drift.

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Excellent! . I think that one poll was taken too early. octoberlib Aug 2018 #1
K AND R DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #2
K&R ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #3
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #4
Polls with 20% undecided are worthless. Nt BootinUp Aug 2018 #5
Shows How Many Idiots There Are In This Country LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #9
Why? Not at all unusual..., right up to an election. Scientific polls are always the rage. Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #19
Actually the Trump approval is 38% with 56% disapprove Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #6
I'm confused as to how 538 is evaluating that poll... regnaD kciN Aug 2018 #7
Where did you get that daily breakdown? NewsCenter28 Aug 2018 #11
Go to this link and hold the cursor over the specific recent day Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #14
Actually I'm wrong...there is a table with approval text for each day Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #16
Interesting...when sample size goes up, Trump approval goes down Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #18
Thanks Awsi!! NewsCenter28 Aug 2018 #24
You are welcome Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #28
Not News Unless It Goes Below 35% LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #8
I noticed the same thing Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #10
Great news! mcar Aug 2018 #12
There are a lot of polls taken after that...all of them over 40%. Why pick out this one? Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #13
No his base is somewhere in the 30s maybe lower. Nixon's was in the low 20s the night he resigned rockfordfile Aug 2018 #25
His average is 41.4%. on 538. John Fante Aug 2018 #30
In other words, tRump's rhetoric does hurt him and he cannot shoot somone & not lose voters ffr Aug 2018 #15
BLUE WAVE INCOMING!! workinclasszero Aug 2018 #17
40%???? ConstanceCee Aug 2018 #20
Yeah, it's a tad down, but not exactly cratering. bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #21
The steady downward trend from August 22 to 28 is interesting Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #22
40% is appalling Martin Eden Aug 2018 #23
Its embarrassing LiberalLovinLug Aug 2018 #26
Isn't 'craters' a bit of an overstatement? elleng Aug 2018 #27
It's not cratering Dopers_Greed Aug 2018 #29
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