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pampango

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17. Great article. It is domestic outsourcing (to nonunion contractors) that Krugman is blasting.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:09 PM
Aug 2012
"Now, if the Romney campaign really believed in its own alleged free-market principles, it would have defended the right of corporations to do whatever maximizes their profits, even if that means shipping jobs overseas. Instead, however, the campaign effectively conceded that offshoring is bad but insisted that outsourcing is O.K. as long as the contractor is another American firm.

That is, however, a very dubious assertion."

"Why, for example, do many large companies now outsource cleaning and security to outside contractors? Surely the answer is, in large part, that outside contractors can hire cheap labor that isn’t represented by the union and can’t participate in the company health and retirement plans. And, sure enough, recent academic research finds that outsourced janitors and guards receive substantially lower wages and worse benefits than their in-house counterparts."

Outsourcing - to a domestic contractors in the examples above - is what Krugman states is the tactic that corporations use to see that "as little as possible of what corporations earn goes into the pockets of the people who actually work". American corporations have been attacking unions but this type of outsourcing and moving factory work from the unionized North and MidWest to right-to-work states largely in the South for decades before foreign countries were involved to any significant extent.

"A country is not a company (despite globalization, America still sells 86 percent of what it makes to itself), and the tools of macroeconomic policy — interest rates, tax rates, spending programs — have no counterparts on a corporate organization chart. Did I mention that Herbert Hoover (of Smoot/Hawley/Hoover infamy) actually was a great businessman in the classic mold?"

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I don't Paul Krugman ever renounced "Free Trade". His most popular book is in support of it. Romulox Aug 2012 #1
Same thing with Robert Reich. I kind of snicker closeupready Aug 2012 #2
Reich published an essay defending outsourcing last month (quote could've been cribbed from CATO) Romulox Aug 2012 #25
A lot of our jobs are going to India. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #29
Which book is that? Orangepeel Aug 2012 #3
"Pop Internationalism" (1997) Romulox Aug 2012 #23
I'm not sure what could be a bigger repudiation of offshoring than what Krugman said here: Zalatix Aug 2012 #4
How about his ENTIRE BODY OF HIS ACADEMIC work? It weighs a lot more than one sentence on a blog. Romulox Aug 2012 #24
Yes, he used to defend offshoring. It appears he has changed course on this. Zalatix Aug 2012 #34
Aren't you ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #7
Eh, not really Hydra Aug 2012 #16
I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #18
Trade has always involved taxes, tarriffs and regulations Hydra Aug 2012 #19
I agree with most of what you're saying ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #21
FYI: We don't have "free trade" with Germany. We have it with impoverished nations like Mexico. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #27
Please explain ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #30
I'm not going to explain to you the difference between the "North American Free Trade Agreement" Romulox Aug 2012 #32
So your "Free Trade" argument ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #38
LOL: "The cheap labor, tax and regulation exemptions are a unrelated corruption of free trade." Romulox Aug 2012 #26
And yet you did? 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #31
You've repeatedly failed to engage with long, well-thought responses. You get what you give. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #33
I'm not going to respond to this ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #39
I rest my case. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #43
Of course you have ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #44
Free trade is like Laissez-faire Capitalism. Zalatix Aug 2012 #35
I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #41
Yeah, he still believes NAFTA was the right thing to do. joshcryer Aug 2012 #37
Great Piece ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #5
Be sure to pass it on to everyone you know! Zalatix Aug 2012 #9
I had to kick and rec this woo me with science Aug 2012 #6
Welcome mr krugman to the Light! Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #8
I'm not convinced... Ron Obvious Aug 2012 #10
K, R & S xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #11
kick woo me with science Aug 2012 #12
K&R nt Yuugal Aug 2012 #13
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k&r n/t RainDog Aug 2012 #15
Great article. It is domestic outsourcing (to nonunion contractors) that Krugman is blasting. pampango Aug 2012 #17
The comment I bolded clearly also applies to foreign outsourcing. Zalatix Aug 2012 #20
A critique of moving jobs to the non-union south is not a defense of child-labor overseas. Romulox Aug 2012 #28
I work for a cleaning contractor for a bank Marzupialis Aug 2012 #22
This is exactly the phrasing "A corporation is not a person" should be used MNBrewer Aug 2012 #36
K & R. HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #40
The audience didn't just jeer, they said the money went into Romney's pockets! reformist2 Aug 2012 #42
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