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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts) Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:12 PM Aug 2012

Naming Paul Ryan as veep is a collosal mistake by Romney [View all]

Naming Ryan makes the Ryan budget effectively the Romney budget.

The Ryan budget may be the singularly least popular piece of legislation proposed since prohibition.

The ads write themselves. Obama and our superpacs can now pull line items out of the Ryan budget for use in ads..... like ending Medicare, extreme cuts to social services and to the wealthy's tax rates.

It will be a goldmine.

The fact that he is an Ayn Rand fanboy is an added bonus.

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Naming Paul Ryan as veep is a collosal mistake by Romney [View all] scheming daemons Aug 2012 OP

I agree... SidDithers Aug 2012 #1

Rumnuts fave book is Battlefield Earth (Scientology) and Ryan is Randian. He also loses roguevalley Aug 2012 #31

Take stock in Napoleon's words Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #2

Nice! part man all 86 Aug 2012 #32

We should shut up, then. Fawke Em Aug 2012 #53

Snicker baby, snicker PurityOfEssence Aug 2012 #95

no attempt to balance the budget for 28 years Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #3

HuffPo says he's it ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #4

An Obama landslide is now a real possibility. nt Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2012 #5

Maybe MittWitt can take some of the Repub congresscritters down with him... elzenmahn Aug 2012 #12

the real question: will it exceed Papa Bush v. Dukakis or Reagan v. Mondale... yurbud Aug 2012 #108

Not to mention the Catholic Nuns have called his budget anti-human. matmar Aug 2012 #6

Oh yeah. Don't mess with the nuns. tblue Aug 2012 #13

Whatever will the Catholic bishops say? Lefty Thinker Aug 2012 #27

Actually it was the Bishops. The nuns merely agreed. catbyte Aug 2012 #51

And boarded a bus, crossing the country to criticise the Ryan budget. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #112

Dammit, ix-nay on the istake-may! Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #7

Brilliant. Because nobody likes Medicare and Social Security. tblue Aug 2012 #16

Cat food isn't as bad as it sounds. BlueStreak Aug 2012 #19

Yum. I can't WAIT to turn 65! Chemisse Aug 2012 #102

Need to go to college go ask your parents for the money. part man all 86 Aug 2012 #37

what's that, guy? Tunkamerica Aug 2012 #40

I think it's irony tavalon Aug 2012 #61

It could use a couple of things. Tunkamerica Aug 2012 #65

it is backwoodsbob Aug 2012 #68

Nah, just use Social Security benefits, like Ryan did. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2012 #85

We get to run against Ryan, literally in EVERY SINGLE HOUSE AND SENATE SEAT! Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #8

And the playbook to use is his own budget proposal... elzenmahn Aug 2012 #10

If memory serves me correctly... elzenmahn Aug 2012 #9

Yes, but now he OWNS it. BlueStreak Aug 2012 #21

How about calling it the Mittryan budget plan? Easy to say. Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #105

But I am just a lowly renter and not a home owner or landlord golfguru Aug 2012 #30

Even for a lot of homeowners the standard deduction beats itemized.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #66

Lots of those coveted independent voters are home owners. They love the deduction. yardwork Aug 2012 #74

i don't pay enough mtg interest to itemize and so have to take the standard deduction. ellenfl Aug 2012 #77

Maybe so, but they may not even realize it. I'm serious. It's the perception that matters. yardwork Aug 2012 #78

the ones who don't realize it are surely first time buyers. ellenfl Aug 2012 #79

And you think raising the effective cost of all houses by 12-15% jeff47 Aug 2012 #88

huh? ellenfl Aug 2012 #94

Mortgage interest deduction reduces the effective price of houses jeff47 Aug 2012 #100

It's not a myth to us vankuria Aug 2012 #92

i didn't say i spoke for everyone. i'm just saying i was surprised and ellenfl Aug 2012 #96

If there was no mortgage deduction, the standard deduction could go much lower Chemisse Aug 2012 #103

Those rural home owners you describe are most likely NOT in a high tax bracket golfguru Aug 2012 #80

i wish my tax rate was 15%! eom ellenfl Aug 2012 #97

Nurse, teacher, policeman, fireman, city bus driver, garbage truck driver etc golfguru Aug 2012 #114

i think 'or higher' applies. eom ellenfl Aug 2012 #119

Slightly rural, not rural jeff47 Aug 2012 #101

Median Family income in 2011 was $56,000 (2 wage earners) golfguru Aug 2012 #115

The poor aren't buying houses. jeff47 Aug 2012 #118

No one's sure what the "loopholes" Ryan intends to close are, because he won't say jmowreader Aug 2012 #45

He said he supported it....and then that he doesn't support it. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2012 #86

Um no picking Ryan is great... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #11

I see what you did there. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #36

It ties Romney both to the unpopular legislation and to the unpopular Congress fishwax Aug 2012 #14

exactly grantcart Aug 2012 #34

This unmasks the vision Republicans have for America: the wealthy rule and no safety net for you neverforget Aug 2012 #15

You are Delphinus Aug 2012 #84

That will get the baggers side even worse Panasonic Aug 2012 #17

That handful of Koch led billionaires want to groom him to run in 2016 Warpy Aug 2012 #18

This is fucking awesome Aerows Aug 2012 #20

It really made my day....I was concerned about a couple of possibilities but Ryan wasn't one of them Rowdyboy Aug 2012 #38

I agree----Paul Ryan is a gift Grammy23 Aug 2012 #22

But let's not allow Ryan's budget to take the focus off of Romney's taxes. Avalux Aug 2012 #23

I don't think we need to worry about that Caretha Aug 2012 #69

Almost as awesome as a Jindal pick would have been. Ryan is not a credible choice. nt Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2012 #24

It's Christmas! UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #25

EarlG already know. He posted a photo, see link below Tx4obama Aug 2012 #54

He's in photoshop heaven! UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #57

BEST news in the world for us, I'm thrilled! nt Raine Aug 2012 #26

They had to be afraid they were gonna lose the Teabaggers. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #28

Oh come on! Herman & Eddie go so well together. SunSeeker Aug 2012 #29

A colostomistake. Kablooie Aug 2012 #33

This strikes me as a purely defensive play. Probably afraid their base would stay home endangering Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2012 #35

Paul Ryan is going to seriously endanger all their down ballot choices Bjorn Against Aug 2012 #83

What, was Sarah Palin not available? thecascadian Aug 2012 #39

welcome to DU! renate Aug 2012 #110

We can only hope so. Fozzledick Aug 2012 #41

This could be a longer-term strategy by the RNC synapticwave Aug 2012 #42

To be fair he didn't have many good options. D23MIURG23 Aug 2012 #43

Wow, I hope this is good news TicketyBoo Aug 2012 #44

New Yorker libodem Aug 2012 #46

Thanks for the early Christmas gift Willard, This is a guaranteed loser of a pick Guy Montag Aug 2012 #47

The Fox News Poll Friday DallasNE Aug 2012 #48

Ryan "denounced" Rand earlier this year. presumably in PeaceNikki Aug 2012 #49

He's doubling down as if he's going to win the argument Qutzupalotl Aug 2012 #50

The Romney/Ryan plan gives themselves tax cuts and we don't even get to see if they need them?????? Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #52

I hope you are right. I am not sure how dense the American public is though. One thing for certain still_one Aug 2012 #55

A lot of possibilities here . . . caseymoz Aug 2012 #56

My thoughts exactly. Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #58

Everything you said is true. I'm hoping it really is Ryan. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #59

I see this as an early Christmas present from RMoney tavalon Aug 2012 #60

+100 rad51 Aug 2012 #62

I'm not sure it will make much difference cali Aug 2012 #63

Yep, but Romney needed someone who could make a difference. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #75

One wonders how much power the GOP itself.. sendero Aug 2012 #64

I don't believe the Adults are in charge at GOP DearAbby Aug 2012 #93

You are absolutely correct. randome Aug 2012 #109

And the fact that he is as dumb as a stump madokie Aug 2012 #67

I don't think he is nichomachus Aug 2012 #71

whatever else he is, he's not stupid. and he's not inarticulate. cali Aug 2012 #73

read what he tried to pull off with his budget and tell me he is 1: smart 2: articulate madokie Aug 2012 #90

He thinks he's an intellectual. gulliver Aug 2012 #82

I very much agree, and perfectly stated. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #89

I thought the Teabaggers hated career politicians nichomachus Aug 2012 #70

I think that the Koch brothers think that they can buy this election. yardwork Aug 2012 #72

agreed. DCBob Aug 2012 #76

Even the RCC hates him! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #81

Gekko/Galt 2012 Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #87

That's worthy of a bumper sticker IDemo Aug 2012 #104

Let 'em. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #106

The ONLY way this works for mitt is if it placates teabaggers for 3 months and pampango Aug 2012 #91

I disagree, its not a mistake at all. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #98

The WH oppo researchers are popping the champagne hifiguy Aug 2012 #99

they should play up that Ayn Rand angle in the Bible Belt yurbud Aug 2012 #107

It Was A Panicky, Base-Pleasing Pick Skraxx Aug 2012 #111

it's not a mistake if you're throwing the whole race 4 t 4 Aug 2012 #113

Republicans are not deep thinkers! B Calm Aug 2012 #116

K&R Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #117