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bitterross

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5. These Twelve-Step Christians are some of the most annoying.
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:29 AM
Sep 2018

I have some personal experience with people like Dahl. I spent 9 months in rehab/recovery. There are some people, not all, in the Twelve-Step movements who find the Christian God/Jesus as their higher power who saved them from whichever addiction they have. They generally traded one obsession for another.

In the cases of the most fervent people (like I suspect Dahl probably is), they have substituted their addiction to some substance (drugs/alcohol/sex) with an addiction to religion. This is very unfortunate for people like Coleman who have other beliefs and don't want to be a Christian. In the world of people like Dahl, Christianity has taken the place of their drug of choice (alcohol is a drug actually). One of the most annoying features of many Christian sects is the adherents are instructed to go out and convert all the other sinners and save them through Jesus. Addicts/Alcoholics are great at focusing on a goal like that. Obsessive behavior is part of addiction.

With addicts in recovery like Dahl, the owner, I have found them to be particularly obsessed with converting everyone else to see things their way. They replaced their obsession with a drug with their obsession for Christ and saving every other addict through Christ.

It can be much more harmful than helpful. They spend all their time devoting themselves to saving others through their version of redemption and don't stop to really look at the underlying issues that caused their substance abuse in the first place. They believe Jesus has lifted their burden. They used to live a drug-centered life and they simply trade that for a "Christ-centered" life.

I don't wish Dahl ill. I am certain he believes he is doing the right thing. As a "Second Chance" employer he is very much helping people with criminal records and past addiction issues find work and re-integrate into society. I think that is great. I think it will be terrible if his company goes out of business and cannot provide those jobs any longer.

I just wish people like Dahl could stop trying to make everyone else live life by their standards. This is common to Republicans, Evangelicals and people like Dahl.

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Pay me overtime. Throck Sep 2018 #1
Was it in the employee handbook? oberliner Sep 2018 #2
No, he didn't. Also, you cannot make a contract for something illegal bitterross Sep 2018 #4
It wouldn't be illegal oberliner Sep 2018 #9
PROBLEM: "why they are a necessary aspect of the position." bitterross Sep 2018 #13
You are probably right oberliner Sep 2018 #15
Right wing talking points. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #20
hw should sue for MILLIONS ..... BANKRUPT THE COMPANY trueblue2007 Sep 2018 #3
I get your ire about this. There are other considerations though. bitterross Sep 2018 #6
So instead of having bible study, why not have a 12 Step meeting, where people smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #10
That would be a slightly better option. But not much. bitterross Sep 2018 #12
I have some experience with this and I would agree with you. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #14
Fuck that jesus light shit. AA is as much a religion to some as church on sunday. X_Digger Sep 2018 #16
Sorry, I agree with you. I have left the program because of it. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #17
LOL - I see you've attended some of the same AA meetings I have. bitterross Sep 2018 #18
Not personally, but I've seen friends & family fall into it. X_Digger Sep 2018 #19
He may not be Pence, but he's ultimately directed by the Pences of the world kcr Sep 2018 #23
These Twelve-Step Christians are some of the most annoying. bitterross Sep 2018 #5
Jesus is just another drug. Horse with no Name Sep 2018 #7
Yep. I guess I did go on a lot but that's the point. bitterross Sep 2018 #8
That's what we say about a cousin dflprincess Sep 2018 #22
I don't think Dahl can hide behind the Colorado bakery decision here DFW Sep 2018 #11
Trying to think how a radical Supreme Court would decide this.. mountain grammy Sep 2018 #21
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