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DemocratSinceBirth

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57. You suggested the election be annulled.

Sun Sep 2, 2018, 03:27 PM

Sep 2018

Since there is no provision in the Constitution for annulling an election how do you propose to annul the election without suspending it ?

Now if you want to make the argument that the president can be removed through impeachment and conviction , and annulment then propose an amendment to add annulling an election to the Constitution. That will be even harder than impeachment and conviction. That requires a 2/3 vote in both the House and Senate and 2/3 of the states.

We're in la la land.

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"There's no statute or specific provision of the Constitution that specifically authorizes [View all] Atticus Sep 2018 OP

K&R ck4829 Sep 2018 #1

Those things were all done through constitutional amendments or supreme court decisions htuttle Sep 2018 #2

People love to ignore this. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #4

Because its not emotional Kilgore Sep 2018 #7

"It is not enough that we do our best, sometimes we must do Atticus Sep 2018 #5

No, several of them were done by legislation Jim Lane Sep 2018 #47

You are correct. Done within the framework of the Constitution. bitterross Sep 2018 #48

K& R! Nt ecstatic Sep 2018 #3

Jesus Christ these posts are ridiculous manor321 Sep 2018 #6

Yeah, you are right. We are SO-O screwn! Should we just lay down now Atticus Sep 2018 #9

What should we do, in your opinion? bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #10

I was not aware I had made any specific suggestion beyond doing SOMETHING and Atticus Sep 2018 #20

What is the mechanism for annulling an election ? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #22

Snark always helps, is that it? Atticus Sep 2018 #26

There is nothing wrong with a little levity, especially when the situation begs for it. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #32

What do you recommend we do to oust Donald Trump right now ? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #12

You do realize this could happen to us, right? EllieBC Sep 2018 #13

What, exactly, do you suggest we do? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #14

He's a little vague on that. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #16

Ain't THAT the truth? NurseJackie Sep 2018 #19

I don't know why people take the bait jberryhill Sep 2018 #87

The fact that you don't understand Codeine Sep 2018 #74

All of those things occurred as the result of court decisions, legislation, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #8

And moreover, the Emancipation Proclamation Igel Sep 2018 #44

I believe the Emancipation Proclamation was issued in 1863, two years before the South was conquered hedda_foil Sep 2018 #126

Y'know, when the birthers argued that the courts could overturn Obama's election onenote Sep 2018 #11

Short memories and high emotions. EllieBC Sep 2018 #15

Outside of impeachment and conviction or resignation it's nigh impossible in our system. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #18

which is what the courts that reached the issue concluded in the birther cases onenote Sep 2018 #23

The OP seems to be suggesting that if enough people protest, SCOTUS will suspend the Constitution. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #24

This wins the most ridiculous mischaracterization award for responses in this thread. nt Atticus Sep 2018 #27

Sir, you are being hoisted on your own petard. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #30

Hoisted? Hardly. Could you point out Atticus Sep 2018 #55

You suggested the election be annulled. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #57

remember, you're arguing there's no provision bigtree Sep 2018 #66

From the article you cited DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #69

quite different than what you've been slamming the op for bigtree Sep 2018 #70

Please cite the Article in the Constitution where it provides for annulments of elections ? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #71

please provide me the article that says Congress can't interpret the Constitution bigtree Sep 2018 #73

I read what they wrote and I don't find it compelling. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #76

A bill annulling every action taken by Trump would cause chaos onenote Sep 2018 #93

"the sole means"? Where does it say this? Where does it say this is the Atticus Sep 2018 #106

"the sole means"? Where does it say this? Where does it say this is the Atticus Sep 2018 #107

Is there another means spelled out (apart from the 25th amendment)? onenote Sep 2018 #109

Travel deductions for corporations world wide wally Sep 2018 #17

It really behooves the original poster to share with us his plan to oust a sitting president DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #21

I have posted a suggestion above, but it is just one. If I understand your position Atticus Sep 2018 #25

Please point to an Amendment or Article in the Constitution that provides for an election annullment DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #28

It Did you read the OP and my subsequent responses? Atticus Sep 2018 #59

It has nothing to do with conservatism, faith or feelings. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #63

Did I miss the word "only" in that text? nt Atticus Sep 2018 #83

The method for impeaching DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #84

you're right bigtree Sep 2018 #29

There is a huge difference DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #31

just stop bigtree Sep 2018 #35

It's cynical to posit scenarios that have no chance of materializing. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Sep 2018 #37

sad. bigtree Sep 2018 #38

There is nothing in my comments that suggest I oppose activism. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #39

you made that perfectly clear bigtree Sep 2018 #40

I'm not trying to be contentious. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #41

no mechanism, true bigtree Sep 2018 #42

My friend. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #43

Some are impatient. Igel Sep 2018 #46

I saw a thread agitating in favor of a military coup or at least ruminating about one. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #49

pragmatism?? qazplm135 Sep 2018 #51

hyperbole bigtree Sep 2018 #52

it's a great word qazplm135 Sep 2018 #61

Not sure this OP doesn't recognize this ad KPN Sep 2018 #99

The Constitution allows for impeachment of justices DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #100

Geez, Tough Crowd Charlotte Little Sep 2018 #64

The Constitution is imperfect but it offers the possibility of amending itself. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #67

Do you not realize that anyone who can read can easily see Atticus Sep 2018 #79

I didn't make anything up. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #82

I understand your reluctance to deal in facts. At this point, please declare yourelf my superior Atticus Sep 2018 #85

More ad hominems DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #89

Thank you. nt Atticus Sep 2018 #102

Thank you. nt Atticus Sep 2018 #97

None of those things were specifically forbidden by the Constitution. NYC Liberal Sep 2018 #33

Typical rightwing ignorance. J_William_Ryan Sep 2018 #34

you have it exactly reversed qazplm135 Sep 2018 #53

I had to read the post you are responding to twice. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #56

this thread is filled qazplm135 Sep 2018 #62

I am a believer in a world after this one. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #65

The Constitution provides "A" method to remove a legitimately elected POTUS. Disregarding for the Atticus Sep 2018 #68

So basically qazplm135 Sep 2018 #95

If it makes you feel better to say that's what I said, knock yourself out. nt Atticus Sep 2018 #96

lol qazplm135 Sep 2018 #127

This thread reminds me of the thread where a poster DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #112

You want Trump out earlier than 2021? JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2018 #45

The Constitution mentions 5 ways sarisataka Sep 2018 #50

Congress interprets provisions of the Constitution from time to time bigtree Sep 2018 #54

Congress does not interpret sarisataka Sep 2018 #88

And if they pass a law that SCOTUS feels is outside the Constitution SCOTUS can overrule it. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #90

Exactly, sarisataka Sep 2018 #98

This is basic citizenship stuff. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #103

UNREC brooklynite Sep 2018 #58

And, of course, the Constitution is a static document, right? How it is interpreted Atticus Sep 2018 #75

It is a dynamic document that gets modified by a static provision covering how it gets modified. brooklynite Sep 2018 #77

If you believe you just made sense, that's one. nt Atticus Sep 2018 #81

No need to attack your interlocutor DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #91

Well DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #60

As clearly stated in the OP, these were examples of changes that no one thought Atticus Sep 2018 #72

"Yet, somehow, they "got did". " DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #78

Well, of course, sir. If YOU say so. That's exactly what the OP suggested: Atticus Sep 2018 #80

The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments came about solely because of a civil war... First Speaker Sep 2018 #94

qazplm135 nailed it DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #101

Important consideration, thanks for stating. Ponietz Sep 2018 #108

By changing things we can avoid this in the future.. nini Sep 2018 #86

Step 1: Work towards election day. Step 2: After election day, evaluate options struggle4progress Sep 2018 #92

No one claims that, but Progressive dog Sep 2018 #104

I guess if the Dems had super majorities in Congress DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #110

Difficult to imagine, I understand, but these are things that it was "understood" would Atticus Sep 2018 #111

The US was one of the last places Progressive dog Sep 2018 #113

Your opinion is based on "the framers" assuming slavery would "fade away". Atticus Sep 2018 #114

The last I knew, there were no opinion polls then Progressive dog Sep 2018 #115

Lot's of references to the founders' views Progressive dog Sep 2018 #117

And none support your broad characterization that "the founders", generally Atticus Sep 2018 #119

"Broad characterization" from someone who wrote Progressive dog Sep 2018 #122

I can understand why you'd rather play "waddabout" than actually respond to what was said. nt Atticus Sep 2018 #123

Oy vey DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #124

It's known as projection Progressive dog Sep 2018 #128

Take two examples from the list of miracles. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #116

I'll add myself to the list of people telling you how silly this comparison is mythology Sep 2018 #105

Ok. nt Atticus Sep 2018 #118

I'll observe that, in a 12-hour discussion the OP has failed to make any suggestion... brooklynite Sep 2018 #120

Maybe we should clap louder! NurseJackie Sep 2018 #121

Or hold hands and collectively hold our breath. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #125