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bhikkhu

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14. Well, looking at definitions and statistics -
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 02:34 AM
Aug 2012

Depression: "A particularly long and/or deep recession. While there is no technical definition of a depression, conventionally it is defined as a period featuring severe declines in productivity and investment and particularly high unemployment. During the Great Depression, for example, GDP in the United States dropped 12% between 1929 and 1930 and a further 16% the following year. Likewise, unemployment rose to more than 25% nationwide and higher in some places.

From http://financial-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Depression

The US was in a recession (negative GDP growth) throughout 2008, and about halfway into 2009. Since then we have had economic growth averaging about 2%. Which isn't too bad. Global economic growth in the same period has averaged about 1.5%.

As far as cause and effect, one of the one's most overlooked here is resource and energy constraints, involved in the price spikes in 2008. The problems have been a bit under the radar, as they don't quite suit the ideologies that are usually applied to economic conditions, but they have become endemic. Every indication is that growth is now constrained under a new paradigm of resource and energy limits, regardless of whatever else is done. Finite planet=limits to growth.

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I have always used humor Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #1
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I credit you for good judgement. JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #8
thanks for good cheer seanpencil Aug 2012 #10
Not watching tv tends to limit the crazy-making aspects bhikkhu Aug 2012 #9
great post seanpencil Aug 2012 #11
Well, looking at definitions and statistics - bhikkhu Aug 2012 #14
ivory tower view? seanpencil Aug 2012 #17
Anecdote is then better? bhikkhu Aug 2012 #19
Really seanpencil Aug 2012 #20
Not magical thinking, just looking at the actual numbers bhikkhu Aug 2012 #21
and not looking at the people seanpencil Aug 2012 #22
One can only see a few people at a time bhikkhu Aug 2012 #23
one can only see a few numbers at a time seanpencil Aug 2012 #25
Yet people are spending money bhikkhu Aug 2012 #35
I hope seanpencil Aug 2012 #41
Well, I seriously doubt that you are! bhikkhu Aug 2012 #62
if you had a big picture view seanpencil Aug 2012 #64
Some of the (few) advantages Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #12
that's beautifully put seanpencil Aug 2012 #13
And thanks for proving my point. Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #15
This 74 year old agrees with you. emilyg Aug 2012 #16
You are the one making assumptions seanpencil Aug 2012 #18
Of course we're in a different situation Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #26
You are in stitches about what you see as rhetoric seanpencil Aug 2012 #29
Again, thanks for confirming my initial thought Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #31
oh yes seanpencil Aug 2012 #40
Oh, noes!!! Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #46
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Look, sweetie Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #49
don't dig yourself in any deeper seanpencil Aug 2012 #50
One thing I tell my kids bhikkhu Aug 2012 #24
These are good points seanpencil Aug 2012 #48
Civil rights are well established by law and custom here bhikkhu Aug 2012 #55
and here with have the most dangerous blind spot of them all. seanpencil Aug 2012 #57
Just don't join Al Qaeda, or declare a personal war on the US bhikkhu Aug 2012 #61
oh, so you're not serious seanpencil Aug 2012 #66
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Si vis pacem, para scotch. Robb Aug 2012 #33
Try to see the big picture. Envision what would happen if we don't participate and give up. n/t Avalux Aug 2012 #34
Remembering history and being optimistic lunatica Aug 2012 #37
Did FDR start the GI Bill? seanpencil Aug 2012 #42
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Depression, what depression? Hell I'm B Calm Aug 2012 #54
I have witnessed something a lot closer to a depression under 2 terms of Reagan NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #56
this is better? seanpencil Aug 2012 #59
I was laid off from my job for the better part of 6 years back then so yes this is better to me NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #60
Better for some seanpencil Aug 2012 #63
what's the alternative? ibegurpard Aug 2012 #58
yes seanpencil Aug 2012 #65
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