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Moostache

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46. We're all whistling past the graveyard here to an extent....
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:23 AM
Sep 2018

The coming age of automation - in industries previously untouched by it - is going to make people long for the days of the $13-15 an hour PT gig with Amazon.

Paralegals, lawyers, advertising copywriters, OTR truckers, and many more are industries that 10 years from now will not exist in anything approaching their current structure or prominence. As more and more manual tasks are replaced by machines and learning robots and drones and self-driving vehicles, fewer and fewer jobs without technical specialities will exist. Service industry jobs are already on the line with self-check out and ordering kiosks at Wal-Mart and McDonald's are just another step at replacing those damn pesky employees and pumping up those sweet, sweet profit margins for the corporate overlords.

We are steaming head long into another cataclysmic upheaval of the world order...just as Britain at the turn of the 20th century was a dead empire standing, so too is the USA at the turn of the 21st century. Just as WWI begat WWII and birthed the remainder of the 20th century, so too are we now seeing a similar echo building in the the 21st century.

The difference now is that nuclear weapons already exist and have been deployed in combat usage previously, so there is no precedent to set or break. I expect full-scale exchanges between India and Pakistan with nearly 500,000,000 dead. Similar exchanges on the Korean peninsula accompanied by massive conventional war on the border there, adding untold millions more to the tally. I fully expect in the next 10 years that Israel will use nuclear weapons against Iran, ensuring a healing of the Sunni-Shiite schism and a unified Islam vs. Judaism holy war. The Divided States of America will have at it again against itself as well...only this time there won't be a reunification of the union, it will result in a nearly Balkanized North America and still more warfare and suffering.

And this is all very likely WITHOUT considering climate change and its impacts as well.

Humanity will finish the 21st century with far fewer people than entered the century and it is going to be horrific...

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Amazon is hurting LOTS of people [View all] SkyDancer Sep 2018 OP
No point in blaming Amazon...we have no worker protection anymore. Starbucks here Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #1
Bezos does not have to be that evil. He's one of the wealthiest people in the world. mucifer Sep 2018 #3
Sure he does...it's how he competes with Trump!!! atreides1 Sep 2018 #33
We need a massive union revitilization in this country SkyDancer Sep 2018 #5
Well they f**ked that up when they voted for Reagan over Jimmy Carter which started the systematic still_one Sep 2018 #9
Truth! SkyDancer Sep 2018 #10
What do you propose will do that? (nt) ehrnst Sep 2018 #24
Besides that, Amazon prices are not better than anyone else Perseus Sep 2018 #34
No real purpose? fescuerescue Sep 2018 #64
Oh and it is gonna get FAR FAR Worse and VERY soon, the people want it to. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #52
You should give credit to the source of the OP. It's "In These Times" Thanks good article mucifer Sep 2018 #2
I linked to it SkyDancer Sep 2018 #6
This argument is crap and plays into Trumps hands. NCTraveler Sep 2018 #4
Which means us. marybourg Sep 2018 #32
And for those who say SkyDancer Sep 2018 #7
+1 Kurt V. Sep 2018 #23
Who is saying "This plays into Trump's hands" ? ehrnst Sep 2018 #25
Post #4 SixString Sep 2018 #45
Great way to do it Bezos,pit workers AGAINST workers.......... Bengus81 Sep 2018 #8
First of all it depends on the job the employee does at Amazon. A software engineer is not going to still_one Sep 2018 #11
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. Coventina Sep 2018 #12
+1 QC Sep 2018 #14
to those who babble there is no class warfare.... dembotoz Sep 2018 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #15
Okaaaaaayyy. Welcome to DU. Coventina Sep 2018 #16
Not an odd practice nor a good business practice Maeve Sep 2018 #18
Bet your not here long!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Sep 2018 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #20
Actually, Bezos and other CEOs are guaranteed a crap ton of money at worker expense AllyCat Sep 2018 #22
Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #28
Making $15/hr for 24 hours a week "allows us to work with a sense of autonomy"? jcgoldie Sep 2018 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #30
Just like Wal-Mart. Nitram Sep 2018 #17
How exactly is this Amazon's fault? He does not work for Amazon hueymahl Sep 2018 #21
Amazon is to California Cartage as Nike is to 3rd world sweat shops. nt LAS14 Sep 2018 #39
Amazon hired Californa Cartage. Merlot Sep 2018 #43
Trump hates Amazon with a passion. orangecrush Sep 2018 #26
Its not because of Amazon it is because of the Washington Post Perseus Sep 2018 #37
Maybe people can stop selling their merchandise on Amazon. ehrnst Sep 2018 #27
Nobody can do that and survive right now. That's the problem. And what are your other options? JCanete Sep 2018 #49
I think that many of those who sell on Amazon could "survive" just fine ehrnst Sep 2018 #50
Well that's silly. It is also, as I"ve explained to you, a platform that has ubiquitous reach, JCanete Sep 2018 #51
What's silly is trying to defend one politician for doing something that one would ehrnst Sep 2018 #57
Are you kidding? I wouldn't call using a platform corrupt. That makes no sense. He's not JCanete Sep 2018 #59
I'm not making a case for or against using Amazon, or any platform. ehrnst Sep 2018 #61
you are making a case that there's some contradiction of behavior here...I'd like to see an example. JCanete Sep 2018 #62
When did I make that case? ehrnst Sep 2018 #63
Corporations by charter have to maximize profits regardless of the overall impact on Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #53
I agree with much of what you said, but no, pointing out one company as an example versus as a JCanete Sep 2018 #54
Sanders? sigh Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #56
I worked for a beer distributor for years. Sometime around 1990 our assistant manager brewens Sep 2018 #31
How many on this thread, I wonder, are members of Amazon Prime? PatrickforO Sep 2018 #35
I tried prime for one year Perseus Sep 2018 #40
Well...we order at least the cost of the yearly membership each month. PatrickforO Sep 2018 #65
K&R. And, "what if we expanded these corporate charters to include" .... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #48
Meanwhile, Bezos Vacuums Up All of the Money dlk Sep 2018 #36
Yes! "It's time to end corporate welfare and give unions the strength they need once again!" nt LAS14 Sep 2018 #38
time to eat the rich Astraea Sep 2018 #41
Amazon opened a shop here a few years ago. lark Sep 2018 #42
It's the whole damn low wage economy JCMach1 Sep 2018 #44
We're all whistling past the graveyard here to an extent.... Moostache Sep 2018 #46
K&R for more truth than we can deal with. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #55
I am a College Professor, should be a good job, right? JCMach1 Sep 2018 #66
I doubt this is going to change as along as people will work on contingency. Hoyt Sep 2018 #47
Employee Free Choice Act and a significant increase in taxation is a good start. David__77 Sep 2018 #58
Why is this Amazon's fault rather than his employer's? B2G Sep 2018 #60
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