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ProfessorPlum

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Wed Sep 5, 2018, 01:42 PM Sep 2018

Why do "Centrists" always seem to favor conservatives, rather than progressives? [View all]

I found this interesting little essay about, among other things, why Steve Bannon of all people had been invited to The New Yorker's festival.

http://www.ianwelsh.net/why-did-the-new-yorker-want-steve-bannon-to-headline-their-festival/

All of this is stuff that centrists can live with. High executive compensation, pro-corporate policies, keeping unions and the left down.

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So the bottom line is that centrists are ok with fascists because fascists are pro-corporate and executive wealth.

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On the other hand, the left wing is hostile to large corporations and high executive compensation. At the least the left would highly regulate corporations and break many of them up, while slapping on c.90% marginal tax rates and punitive estate taxes.

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Left-wingers are an existential threat to centrists because centrists are, substantially, supporters of the status quo. How America and the world is (or was before Trump) is essentially good to them. The parts of the status quo that right wingers want to overthrow don’t hurt centrists. The parts of the status quo that left wingers want to overthrow do.


I've seen this kind of thinking over and over again on the part of "centrists", like every time Michael Bloomberg thinks he wants to start a third party. This kind of thinking is rife in the media as well. These people aren't hard right ideologues. Just economic beneficiaries of the status quo.
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Nope. Not gonna give him the click. OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #1
your post is negative ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #2
So is yours. OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #5
actually ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #22
You're damned right. OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #26
ad hominem is a logical fallacy ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #28
It's only a logical fallacy when used in an attempt to rebut an argument. OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #32
it was the author's argument ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #34
I'm pretty sure that's a summation of your content-free OP. OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #36
I can see why you think the essay has no content ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #37
You posted the OP. You picked the cites. OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #39
Oh you're smart all right ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #43
Oddly enough, the essay also contains no actual arguments. Weird, part II LanternWaste Sep 2018 #8
Well said. emulatorloo Sep 2018 #13
Sure it does. The author edits a website that is extreme left. mythology Sep 2018 #9
what is a real pen ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #10
Duh! Automated signatures. MicaelS Sep 2018 #12
what does it mean to treat liberals like a real pen ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #14
sorry, I should address the question to you ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #33
The "essay" you posted is nothing but fact-free speculation emulatorloo Sep 2018 #11
And there we have it. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2018 #44
the OP is an offensive insult to the majority of Democrats. George II Sep 2018 #46
Yes it is. I wonder if it was intentional. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #52
The New Yorker wasn't looking favorably on Bannon...they saw him as "good copy" brooklynite Sep 2018 #3
Funny how that works, isn't it? QC Sep 2018 #4
Because they are "centrist" in the way toddwv Sep 2018 #6
that's right - it's a convenient means to an end ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #18
Won't click either. It's premise is mistaken to the point of stupid. Hortensis Sep 2018 #7
Bazinga! George II Sep 2018 #47
I've always noticed this budkin Sep 2018 #15
You're right. even though the vast majority of the country ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #16
boy, this post certainly drew out the defenders of ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #17
You are surrounded by left liberals and progressives on DU emulatorloo Sep 2018 #19
I was talking about defenders of right-leaning centrists ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #20
There are no "right-leaning centrists" posting in this thread. emulatorloo Sep 2018 #21
Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #23
There are no "defenders" of rightwing centrists at DU either emulatorloo Sep 2018 #24
well, you're certainly smarter than me ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #25
That's the way it is here, obviously many of "us" are okay with it that way. You? George II Sep 2018 #49
That explains all the missing posts when I look at it. FiveGoodMen Sep 2018 #30
LOL ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #31
Not a nerve, but can't see the purpose other than to take a gratuitous swipe at MOST Democrats. George II Sep 2018 #48
How is the author of this article clueless ? Let me count the ways.......LOL Trust Buster Sep 2018 #27
Let me guess zipplewrath Sep 2018 #35
You bet. And a damn smart one at that. Now, if you would actually like to speak to the subject Trust Buster Sep 2018 #38
Typical zipplewrath Sep 2018 #40
You prove my point. I wrote a lengthy post regarding my views. You respond with emotional snark Trust Buster Sep 2018 #42
You're welcome zipplewrath Sep 2018 #53
Fact free divisiveness and straw man insults. Gosh. What a surprise. Squinch Sep 2018 #29
CRAPITALIST media. brainwashed since reagan. pansypoo53219 Sep 2018 #41
This was a terrible essay. And centrism is not the reason that Bannon was invited. JHan Sep 2018 #45
"Economic beneficiaries of the status quo". Just what is... George II Sep 2018 #50
Ian Welsh. LOL...nt SidDithers Sep 2018 #51
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