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SkyDancer

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99. It's nobody in the cabinet

Reply to scheming daemons (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2018, 05:14 AM

Sep 2018

and is an epic troll job of Trump.

People on 4Chan could pull this off without thinking 2x about it. It's a classic troll job and those of us who are members of the gaming culture are very familiar with this sort of thing.

Basically, you analyze something, you study the situation, and you overload yourself with information. The swerve to make Pence look like he did it is completely intentional. Think about it, the VP doing this, the second in command, Trump's insecurity, planting disinformation? It's completely working and Trump is losing his mind over all this.

The end result? Trump questions everything, begins blaming people constantly, pissing off everyone in his party and in his own cabinet. He becomes more unstable but this time his own cabinet begins to turn on him because he no longer trusts them at all and is projecting onto them. Trump makes their lives a literal hell and in doing so, his cabinet no longer supports him.

It's trolling. With a purpose.

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POLL: Who is the NYT Op-Ed writer? [View all] scheming daemons Sep 2018 OP

Mattis OR Kelly, kozar Sep 2018 #1

Whoever it is fallout87 Sep 2018 #46

Steven Miller sarah FAILIN Sep 2018 #2

No way Trump is not crazy enough for Miller HopeAgain Sep 2018 #35

I agree. Miller is a xenophobic liberalhistorian Sep 2018 #71

I voted other hellacia Sep 2018 #3

That is my guess exboyfil Sep 2018 #9

I think he was set up with the dense pick mikeysnot Sep 2018 #18

I don't think the Times would have run it if it had been him EffieBlack Sep 2018 #47

Pence wouldn't have presented it to the Times hellacia Sep 2018 #61

Wasn't it Manafort who picked Pence thucythucy Sep 2018 #59

No way. He is a lump. Lumps don't do something like the OpEd. Unless.. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #81

Javanka! VMA131Marine Sep 2018 #4

Pence uses "lodestar" jberryhill Sep 2018 #5

Good sleuthing! That's not a common word to use.... scheming daemons Sep 2018 #8

Henry Kissinger used it to refer to McCain's honor at the funeral jberryhill Sep 2018 #12

Oh boy. joshcryer Sep 2018 #10

It's possible that others have picked up use of the word. yardwork Sep 2018 #16

Love your description of Pence! bettyellen Sep 2018 #29

wow - good catch JB !! Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #82

I doubt Mattis or Kelly Sanity Claws Sep 2018 #6

If you read Omarosa's book and there's any truth to it - John Kelly is a super asshole. nt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #86

Good points. You may be right on Mattis or Kelly. Isn't the "don't buck Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #88

Keith Kellogg National Security Adviser for Mike Pence grantcart Sep 2018 #7

Kellogg... Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #91

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee has a poll for you to vote on Gothmog Sep 2018 #11

Ouch! Three family and one outside parasite. nolabear Sep 2018 #19

That's no way to refer to Melania. Drunken Irishman Sep 2018 #97

Has to be a cabinet official, because it reference the cabinet marylandblue Sep 2018 #13

Cabinet or VP jberryhill Sep 2018 #14

Could be VP, but he would mentioned family values, the court marylandblue Sep 2018 #23

"Lodestar" DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #37

Yes, but that's not.enough for me marylandblue Sep 2018 #39

And knowing Mike Pence likes to use that word, calimary Sep 2018 #103

Pence dameatball Sep 2018 #15

Can someoone explain the question to me? CTyankee Sep 2018 #17

You may note that umpteen threads have been posted.... jberryhill Sep 2018 #20

OK. Guess I didn't read that section of the NYT today...hmm... CTyankee Sep 2018 #22

Its tomorrow's paper grantcart Sep 2018 #72

It doesn't sound like they really have him under control that well marylandblue Sep 2018 #24

Pence. yardwork Sep 2018 #21

Someone as delusional as Trump Solly Mack Sep 2018 #25

I don't think Pence had the balls to write this. scheming daemons Sep 2018 #26

I don't think the letter took nerve or guts or daring. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #32

There's a cowardly aspect to it jberryhill Sep 2018 #45

Yes ! One thing that stuck out to me - "We've accomplished a lot" Besides being Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #84

Maybe Mother wrote it. nt madinmaryland Sep 2018 #48

maybe....? Blue_Tires Sep 2018 #27

I'm thinking Pompeo because the Op-Ed references a flip-flop within a week on something. Vinca Sep 2018 #28

Elaine Chao, Secretary of Labor berni_mccoy Sep 2018 #30

NYT wouldn't publish it if it was Pence. Ilsa Sep 2018 #31

Trump himself C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #33

can we all breathe and agree? kozar Sep 2018 #34

Dan Coats. DNI jezebel321 Sep 2018 #36

That's not a bad guess... ADX Sep 2018 #40

Very interesting guess. Coats and Pence are my prime suspects. LonePirate Sep 2018 #43

That's Lawrence O'Donnell's guess. triron Sep 2018 #69

Yep. honest.abe Sep 2018 #75

Dan Coats - Russell Kirk quote in Op-ed and Dan Coats' has quoted him before zenmeta4 Sep 2018 #95

Interesting. Welcome to DU. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #96

In Sarah's response she said "he..." She could be trying to throw us ecstatic Sep 2018 #38

Wait! Wait! "His accomplishments in less than two years have been astounding." sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #90

John Barron torius Sep 2018 #41

I'm going with Don Jr voteearlyvoteoften Sep 2018 #42

I'm going with Mattis. It's gotta be someone with military R B Garr Sep 2018 #44

Either Elaine Chao or Robert E. Lighthizer populistdriven Sep 2018 #49

Let's ask ourselves: "who benefits?" DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #50

Nikki Haley benefits marylandblue Sep 2018 #52

Yes, but she's at the UN, not involved DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #60

Actually she is involved marylandblue Sep 2018 #64

Plenty of viable suspects! DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #65

Yes, I am buying extra popcorn. marylandblue Sep 2018 #66

You can't spell Chaos without Chao populistdriven Sep 2018 #67

Who cares? NNadir Sep 2018 #51

They may not have enough support in the Cabinet yet marylandblue Sep 2018 #53

Deep Throat WheelWalker Sep 2018 #54

I think it's Bobbie Jo Sep 2018 #55

He has no reason to be anonymous... Trump is letting him go next month. scheming daemons Sep 2018 #56

OK, I checked my paper version of the NYT from this morning and it wasn't there! CTyankee Sep 2018 #57

That's why I thought Bobbie Jo Sep 2018 #58

He can't salvage his rep if he doesn't put his name on it scheming daemons Sep 2018 #100

The name will be revealed eventually. Bobbie Jo Sep 2018 #102

I think it's Mattis or Kelley... cynatnite Sep 2018 #62

It is definitely not any of these people listed oberliner Sep 2018 #63

Not too many Sr. officials we haven't heard of marylandblue Sep 2018 #68

My guess is nick ayers. Mosby Sep 2018 #89

I'd wager it's someone who works with Pence, not Pence himself. JHan Sep 2018 #70

"A-moral" is the biggest clue - Pence Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #73

Don McGahn n/t Lucinda Sep 2018 #74

Don McGahn is leaving JI7 Sep 2018 #80

The White House janitor tirebiter Sep 2018 #76

Dan Coats RandySF Sep 2018 #77

Yep, Lawrence was pretty convincing tonight. nt. PearliePoo2 Sep 2018 #92

Dan Coats. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #78

Could it be Jeff Sessions? He would benefit by having Trump gone and has shown some spine lately. Liberty Belle Sep 2018 #79

Don "I'm Gone" McGhann BadGimp Sep 2018 #83

I Think Sessions NickPeace Sep 2018 #85

Dan Coats representing a small group of senior officials--with Coats willing to take the fall. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #87

Daniel P Walsh JonLP24 Sep 2018 #93

Who it is Not. Not Sarah Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #94

Guesses from The Last Word panel DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #98

It's nobody in the cabinet SkyDancer Sep 2018 #99

Dan Coats. calimary Sep 2018 #101

The CEO of Nike Jersey Devil Sep 2018 #104

it's Q for sure 0rganism Sep 2018 #105

I think the actual author is Raj Shah PRETZEL Sep 2018 #106