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H2O Man

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14. Sometimes

Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:25 PM

Sep 2018

a cigar is simply a cigar. The op-ed was not a "false flag" operation. It was a classic destabilizing operation, not unlike a number that have taken place around the world at other times. It was conducted by those who are generally known as neoconservatives -- they would prefer to have Pence as president, rather than Trump.

Thus, in the context of efforts to remove Trump, it was a good thing. However, it must be recognized as the introduction of the "Pence can bring America together" effort on their part. (Similar to Ford.)

The Democratic Party can take advantage of the anti-Trump part, but must be careful that we do not advance Pence et al.

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re: nytimes op-ed -- the question on my mind is not "who", but "why"? [View all] unblock Sep 2018 OP

Trump has been known to release "bad" press on himself as a distraction... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #1

yes the new york times is a particularly interesting choice. unblock Sep 2018 #3

How exactly does a 'Trump is Crazy' op-ed "distract" from the fact that Trump is crazy? emulatorloo Sep 2018 #32

Well, look at what Trump is doing... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #40

We are just along for the ride Cary Sep 2018 #2

Cary sounding momentarily burned out. Hortensis Sep 2018 #17

And the enemy of my enemy is not my friend Cary Sep 2018 #18

Oh, yes. Hortensis Sep 2018 #20

Republicans are pure evil Cary Sep 2018 #21

They support evil for sure, and does it matter Hortensis Sep 2018 #23

Rachel Maddows take on the writers motive from last night YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #4

I don't buy that at all. If they were going to approach it from a 25th amendment angle they still_one Sep 2018 #6

Correct, as always Cary Sep 2018 #22

I will. Thanks Cary still_one Sep 2018 #24

i don't know why people keep talking about the 25th amendment! unblock Sep 2018 #7

I agree, and the OP can garner public opinion for doing so, elleng Sep 2018 #8

I was questioning this very thing yesterday. With project veritas, what was done to Dan Rather, and still_one Sep 2018 #5

indeed. they want a trump who won't try to actually nuke north korea. unblock Sep 2018 #10

No doubt or they would not even have been aboard from the start still_one Sep 2018 #12

See Rick Wilson on those who believe Trump White House is trolling the NYT emulatorloo Sep 2018 #27

One thing that gives it validity is Woodward's book. Still, I doubt anything will come from this still_one Sep 2018 #36

NYT knows who the author is. It isn't James O'Keefe/Project Veritas emulatorloo Sep 2018 #34

I was speculating on the tactic, not on the specific person. I also used the outing of Dan Rather still_one Sep 2018 #38

I cant figure out the end game either ScratchCat Sep 2018 #9

Maybe a weird plea marlakay Sep 2018 #39

Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment... (literally) Hugin Sep 2018 #11

Agreed Buckeyeblue Sep 2018 #13

Except for the fact that Trump has NEVER shown an inclination to strategic thinking... brooklynite Sep 2018 #25

Yep. emulatorloo Sep 2018 #28

You believe 'Trump is Crazy' is a good distraction for Trump? Op-Ed pretty much confirms Woodward' emulatorloo Sep 2018 #29

Sometimes H2O Man Sep 2018 #14

i haven't come to any conclusion. it is certainly possible that they're just trying to salvage a gop unblock Sep 2018 #15

Was meeting with a friend just after the story broke yesterday - that's where her mind went. salin Sep 2018 #19

It's all about reassuring anti-Trump Republicans ahead of the election. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #16

Can be spun to fit whatever. moondust Sep 2018 #26

My fear is something that rump proposed or wanted done that is more outlandish than nuking... SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #30

Doesn't the NYT know who the author of the op ed is? ginnyinWI Sep 2018 #31

it's not likely the nytimes would have run it if they knew it was from donnie personally unblock Sep 2018 #33

The conspiracy theory just isn't credible. Trump ain't a chess player. emulatorloo Sep 2018 #35

When I finally read the whole thing I decided it was Pence, laying... LAS14 Sep 2018 #37