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global1

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Sun Sep 9, 2018, 10:35 AM Sep 2018

Why Hasn't The NYT OpEd Been More Effective..... [View all]

One would think that given the message Anonymous was conveying that this OpEd would have been the final nail in Trump's coffin. That the Repugs in Congress would finally get the message and move to remove Trump from office.

Instead most of the interest in the OpEd revolves around the identity of 'Anonymous'. It was made a game by the MSM and people are still putting in their guesses as to who wrote this OpEd.

Now why wasn't this OpEd more effective? My guess is how Trump handled the furor surrounding this OpEd. We always hear in the background that he is furious. He is volcanic. He is obsessed with finding out who the author is and punishing him/her.

Well - when we finally see Trump - he never looks volcanic or furious. He acts his normal insane and lying self and we never see him flying off the handle. Therefore - in the eyes of his supporters - he maintains some credibility.

Just once I'd like to see him - in public - go off the deep end with anger, fury and with a volcanic reaction. However, we people never see him in that state. He has a way of controlling himself when he appears in public. He may lie. He may say outlandish things. He might peck at people. But he never flies off the handle in public. As a result - we never get to see the behind the scenes described person.

Until we see Trump melt down in public - he'll continue to maintain the upper hand in these situations.

Now he has 'deep state' and 'treason' messages going for him with this OpEd.

And the more that comes out about his own treason or treasonous acts - he's able to flip in around and use that to counteract any accusations against him.

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Because it told folks what they already knew. onenote Sep 2018 #1
Exactly. Brainstormy Sep 2018 #4
Correct. It's not a surprise or news. Just another confirmation. bitterross Sep 2018 #15
Totally agree. Most of the so called ... Guilded Lilly Sep 2018 #22
Absolutely agree Pope George Ringo II Sep 2018 #34
The only real surprise Chemisse Sep 2018 #23
Exactly to all above. PLUS, half the nation supports Hortensis Sep 2018 #32
How would we know if "Trump melts down in public?" Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #2
I Know That When We See Him At A Rally - He Talks Through His Hat..... global1 Sep 2018 #6
Because those Republicans in Congress need the votes of Trump supporters to get reelected. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #3
Elected Republicans fear 45's voters more than they love the country and the Constitution. LonePirate Sep 2018 #5
That's true but they also are riding him to push through their deeply held agenda underpants Sep 2018 #7
Pence would support that same agenda. But the deplorables would not because of 45 being ousted. LonePirate Sep 2018 #9
Good point underpants Sep 2018 #14
Woodward is likely to echo some of the same so it might get more traction... hlthe2b Sep 2018 #8
Because Don the Con will be able to convince his meathead base... SMC22307 Sep 2018 #10
We don't know what Anonymous intended. They could just be doing a CYA exercise. I think it has OnDoutside Sep 2018 #11
That was my take on the letter. They still want all their shitty policies to get shoved on Nay Sep 2018 #20
Yes and that is the unspoken question : If they dumped Trump, would the never Trumpers jump back on OnDoutside Sep 2018 #33
The "who did it?" game is more entertaining , like the horserace focus on elections, tblue37 Sep 2018 #12
Even a video of him flying off the handle wouldn't matter marylandblue Sep 2018 #13
His rallies are a wrestling act underpants Sep 2018 #16
It was the scandal of the day. fallout87 Sep 2018 #17
"... the final nail in Trump's coffin ..." JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2018 #18
Because everyone has dug in RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #19
I fail to see any evidence that Trump has the upper hand in these situations. Kaleva Sep 2018 #21
Because it only confirms what had already become known The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #24
The point was to say there's no reason to remove him. "We got this." Garrett78 Sep 2018 #25
The GOP has a Bigger Lock on the Media Than Anyone Will Admit dlk Sep 2018 #26
I don't know anyone who thought the OpEd would be the final nail in Trump's coffin. aikoaiko Sep 2018 #27
Until he actually shoots someone on Fifth Ave Rustynaerduwell Sep 2018 #28
Because the country has no idea who wrote it. Could have been anyone including the NYT. Trust Buster Sep 2018 #29
It seems like slight of hand to create a diversion to take the focus off of Bob Woodward's book. CentralMass Sep 2018 #30
I don't understand how a "Trump is Crazy" op-ed is a 'diversion' from a "Trump is Crazy" book emulatorloo Sep 2018 #35
When it is penned by someone working for the administration it opens the door to a number of things CentralMass Sep 2018 #36
I wish NYT had not published the op ed ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #31
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