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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
50. No he's not
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 03:25 PM
Sep 2018

Mine is a team cause.

Politics, governance is a team sport.

When Sanders joins the team and leaves the team (forget the fact that he tells people that the team does terrible things) he is stating in "branding terms" that it is not a first place team. It is a second place team and it is below him. He is saying that there is should be a better team but he will go along with this team for now.

Its as if a football player joined a team that had orange and black colored jerseys and a player insisted on wearing his own colors, green and gold.

They may run in the same direction and they may run the same route but they are not on the same team. One team supports and promotes the team. May not even have names on the back of the Jerseys, they are known as the Democrats.

Sanders promotes himself and a few Democrats that he endorses. He says that the Democrats are terrible at messaging, he doesn't agree with their branding. He is on the team when it helps him score points and leaves the team when it helps him improve his individual brand.

Yesterday I had a killer day. Got up at 4 am with 4 hours sleep for an 18 hour killer work day.

On the way from San Diego to Yuma in the middle of a desolate area there was a trunk parked on the shoulder. A driver was starting on what was going to be a 5 mile trip to the gas station.

Turns out he lost track of his DEF and ran out.

Normally I would have stopped and picked him up but this time I took him to the 2nd gas station (first didn't have DEF) and he could have waited a couple of hours to arrange a ride back to his truck but I took him.

I took him back (even though he was no longer "stranded&quot because it would give me another 30 minutes to tell him more about O'Rourke. He was from Texas. I already got him excited about O'Rourke but while he was picking up his DEF I was in the car looking up places in Laredo where you could get an absentee ballot because he says he is registered but never home and rarely voted.

By the time we got back to his truck with the DEF he had bookmarked the link and had texted 15 friends to vote for Beto.

I did this because the head of our team told us to take off our slippers and put on our boots and get going. Being a team player I was inspired and took an hour out on a day that made my diabetes scream pain into my feet and stayed with this guy, just like I was canvassing door to door, which I do a lot of for Democrats. In my Congressional District the winner of the Democratic nomination Alexandra Kirkpatrick sent out a mailer for my candidate, Dr Heinz (who happens to be gay) lying and saying that he supported the NRA. Kirkpatrick was an ardent NRA supporter until our congresswoman Giffords got shot in the head. Personally I hate Kirkpatrick for what she did to Dr. Heinz. I spent last Saturday going door to door because in the end who is on the ballot isn't that important. Its the D that's important. So even when I am unhappy with the individual I promote the team because in the US system power is given to teams, not individuals. Sanders has it backwards.

Now even if Beto doesn't win the increased turnout should trigger 2 red congressional seats to flip to blue.

So Sanders may agree with me on many things (and on trade he agrees with Trump while I agree with Obama) but he is also SHOUTING A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE by repeatedly joining and then leaving the Democratic Party and that is "DEMOCRATS ARE NOT REALLY GOOD ENOUGH".

You can excuse it away, you can be devoted to your hero but you cannot explain away the fact that Sanders really doesn't think that the Democratic Team measures up. If he thought that they did he would have their name on his jersey.

Just last week I talked in depth with a guy who voted for Trump and is now unhappy but really likes Sanders. He doesn't think that the Democrats are good for anything and he doesn't really think that Democrats and Sanders have that much in common.

As Luhan said "the medium is the message" and Sanders medium is "the Democratic Party is not good enough for me".

You are free to delude yourself in thinking that such distinctions don't speak volumes to ordinary people but they do and they are cumulative over years. There is a huge amount of proven statistical research that shows if you can get somebody to vote in 3 Presidential elections for the same party they will remain with that party for the rest of their lives at a very high percentage. The point is to build a bond with the team.

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Thank you. peekaloo Sep 2018 #1
... NurseJackie Sep 2018 #2
... Me. Sep 2018 #4
Why the snark? StuckInTexas Sep 2018 #5
No more unnecessary than yours. MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #10
OMG LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #54
Sanders in not one of our own. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #71
... LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #73
Pic of a real Democrat Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #87
Pic of two politicians on our side that we should be supporting LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #93
Pic of a real Democrat and someone who attacks Dems Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #103
Oh dear... LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #104
Yes Oh dear... Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #105
You answered your own question ,purposely divisive and it is a schtick. bahrbearian Sep 2018 #15
Agreed. Equinox Moon Sep 2018 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #55
I posted eight examples in response to prof on a previous thread... ehrnst Sep 2018 #40
I posted one, several times. sheshe2 Sep 2018 #89
Meh. BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #3
Oh katmondoo Sep 2018 #6
I appreciate what you're trying StuckInTexas Sep 2018 #7
Yup yup, PUMA app over again... besides, in case anyone forgot, Bernie's not a Democrat. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #12
Hahaha! babylonsister Sep 2018 #36
Worse, he said he might run again but NOT as a Democrat. pnwmom Sep 2018 #67
Thanks ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #16
Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #72
Bernie has an artful way of inserting criticisms of Democrats in almost everything he says. honest.abe Sep 2018 #8
If by "criticisms" that actually means smears, then rest assured ... NurseJackie Sep 2018 #9
Yeah, that might be a more accurate term. honest.abe Sep 2018 #11
Bernie is the Outreach Chair of the Senate Democratic Steering and Outreach Committee... demmiblue Sep 2018 #13
What are the actual responsibilities of that assignment? Who's he reaching out to? NurseJackie Sep 2018 #24
I wonder why BS hits people up for money via email at least once a month lapucelle Sep 2018 #76
It appears that his "outreach" position has little if anything to do with "outreach to voters". NurseJackie Sep 2018 #88
That appointment was seen by many here on DU as a "token" ehrnst Sep 2018 #32
+1 Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #35
I agree... but that's asking a lot of some around here. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #56
How is that possible? Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #75
Here's the problem I have... Adrahil Sep 2018 #14
Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #19
NO. Everything he said is absolutely dead on. Cha Sep 2018 #21
Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #31
Why do you say that? (nt) ehrnst Sep 2018 #33
Bernie makes effective, progressive videos. DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #68
You accuse the poster of lying and being biased... ehrnst Sep 2018 #23
... NurseJackie Sep 2018 #26
No, you are wrong. mountain grammy Sep 2018 #30
How so? (nt) ehrnst Sep 2018 #34
No, Sorry.. It's the Brutal Truth! Many people here and Cha Sep 2018 #39
Not only did he LEAVE the party, he says that if he runs again it WON'T be as a Democrat! pnwmom Sep 2018 #44
Oh, my. Well, Sanders and I agreed completely on the Hortensis Sep 2018 #52
That last point of yours is right on the money... my thoughts exactly! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #61
Ah, if we waited long enough, it had to happen someday. Hortensis Sep 2018 #62
Everything you said is factually true, especially the last part about if it happens again the harm Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #51
Bernie's the BEST!!...nt SidDithers Sep 2018 #17
Issues before personalities or labels. A democrat by any other name onit2day Sep 2018 #18
"So-called" leaders? ehrnst Sep 2018 #27
Damn straight... been sayin' the same thing for a long time now... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #57
"I read a lot about how much better Democratic politicians are R B Garr Sep 2018 #20
Yep, "divisive".. and they all Cha Sep 2018 #22
"In fact, let's all compete..." Oh, goody! A contest! UNITY!! NurseJackie Sep 2018 #45
Thanks zentrum Sep 2018 #25
Thank you ProfessorPlum.. and on that note mountain grammy Sep 2018 #28
Thumbs up :) ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #29
Hear Hear! HootieMcBoob Sep 2018 #37
I remember those days fondly :) ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #47
The thing is, people tend to choose their group to belong Hortensis Sep 2018 #58
Yup yup, those were the days. Thanks for your post... dead balls on!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #59
Most if not all of his positions have been Democratic positions ehrnst Sep 2018 #81
Actions have consequences. Go figure. MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #99
+1 betsuni Sep 2018 #100
Recommend! nt babylonsister Sep 2018 #38
Here you go! ehrnst Sep 2018 #42
Thank You, ehrnst! i Like these Dems over BS any Cha Sep 2018 #49
We should all leave the Democratic Party. Don't see how that is helpful grantcart Sep 2018 #43
"I have been doing it every day for 2 years." ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #46
No he's not grantcart Sep 2018 #50
My heart bleeds for your problems with Sanders ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #63
He won't be our ally if he follows up on his threat to run for President as an Independent. pnwmom Sep 2018 #53
Here are more! ehrnst Sep 2018 #48
Thanks for the post. I see the usual Bernie envy as well. It must really hurt that he is so popular. jalan48 Sep 2018 #60
Envy, I'm thinking of an old envious red-faced man at the Democratic National Convention njhoneybadger Sep 2018 #83
I know it's tough hating America's most popular politician. jalan48 Sep 2018 #84
"America's most popular politician" betsuni Sep 2018 #86
I dig the myth of his most popular status you guys keep forwarding. LanternWaste Sep 2018 #90
Not sacred, just liked by millions of Americans. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that jalan48 Sep 2018 #94
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2018 #64
Links please? Thanks! George II Sep 2018 #65
I'll play! OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #66
EVERYONE is calling out Trump's lies. A book is hitting sales records, doing just that, too. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #69
I'd love to see your favorite highlights from Sanders calling Trump out on his lies! betsuni Sep 2018 #70
I prefer Democrats who are actually Democrats. VOX Sep 2018 #74
ok, I'll bite ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #82
"Belonging to a particular group" is the crux of the matter. VOX Sep 2018 #97
I think his overall record speaks volumes ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #98
It is not true that Democrats have abandoned New Deal policies and Bernie is the betsuni Sep 2018 #101
Bill Crystal tazkcmo Sep 2018 #77
Maybe it's because Kristol would not raise taxes on the rich? ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #85
rec Kurt V. Sep 2018 #78
Appears folks here prefer trump to saying something nice about Bernie dembotoz Sep 2018 #79
"Appears folks here prefer Trump to saying something nice about Bernie." betsuni Sep 2018 #80
I'm not surprised you've forced yourself to see it as such. LanternWaste Sep 2018 #91
Lol force myself?? God damn obvious dembotoz Sep 2018 #92
Don't bother. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2018 #95
Sounds good dembotoz Sep 2018 #96
i have to think about this first...... samnsara Sep 2018 #102
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