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Grasswire2

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57. all well and good, but if Mueller doesn't stamp out the very real collusion with indictments...
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:34 AM
Sep 2018

......the ogres of the right wing will get away with their crimes again. The howling from them will never end.

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Perhaps Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #1
I have to think so.... We are viewing everything through blinders. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #2
Or through a glass darkly. nt tblue37 Sep 2018 #6
Agreed Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #15
Sorry I brought it up. kentuck Sep 2018 #3
No, don't be sorry AndJusticeForSome Sep 2018 #8
Last I checked this WAS a message board Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #9
It's actually a damn good question! lunatica Sep 2018 #63
Perhaps those of us with curious minds AndJusticeForSome Sep 2018 #4
Do what you want Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #16
I don't see anyone arguing otherwise. LanternWaste Sep 2018 #62
Agreed. democratisphere Sep 2018 #18
No offense but your post sounds kind of shitty?? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #36
Perhaps it does come across that way, Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #49
Yes. I appreciate your point of view. I find sometimes Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #50
I read news stories online Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #55
Laura, you are correct... kentuck Sep 2018 #56
So true, I have been guilty of it multiple times Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #61
Bingo! lunatica Sep 2018 #64
Going to trial can be a roll of the dice left-of-center2012 Sep 2018 #5
Not According To Every Analyst I've Heard LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #11
Which probably explains why Manafort isn't even going to try and fight this one. Kaleva Sep 2018 #26
If he's going to get a pardon anyway... kentuck Sep 2018 #31
If he's not giving Mueller anything, I doubt he'll be allowed to plead to a single lesser charge. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #53
Costs money and puts him more at risk by not dealing. LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #12
IF he's not getting cooperation, he must think there's PR value in an aloqution. CincyDem Sep 2018 #7
That makes sense. kentuck Sep 2018 #13
I don't think we're going to get that lucky. CincyDem Sep 2018 #21
Trump is not going to pull that trigger just yet. Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #10
My take is this,watch for the Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #14
What is van rehabilitation? Like throwing Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #37
Not quite, Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #41
Interesting:). Thanks Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #44
Watching the legal pundits with this.. they seem as clueless as all of us... hlthe2b Sep 2018 #17
A pardon for Manafort is not a pardon for Trump... kentuck Sep 2018 #32
Manafort is not in a good position. The second trial is likely to be worse for him The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #19
Excellent points! kentuck Sep 2018 #33
I was thinking get the red out Sep 2018 #45
Robert Mueller knows what he'll get out of any deal PJMcK Sep 2018 #20
Maybe there are banks, oligarchs, accounts, henchmen, or other evidence he's witholding? lindysalsagal Sep 2018 #22
I Can Think of Two Possible Reasons: SDJay Sep 2018 #23
Would he flip for witness protection? He's not safe otherwise. bettyellen Sep 2018 #24
russia in the pence pick. more russia. pansypoo53219 Sep 2018 #25
I have to entertain the possibility HopeAgain Sep 2018 #27
do we have confirmation from Mueller that there is a plea deal? Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #28
What about treason? Is it punishable by death,? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #38
Maybe it's a get-nothing, give-nothing deal. RockRaven Sep 2018 #29
Great minds. See #59. Someday I'll read before I speak. :-) LAS14 Sep 2018 #60
What Will Manafort Will Give Up.... HumblePi Sep 2018 #30
Interesting point about Don Jr and the Trump Tower meeting... kentuck Sep 2018 #34
But just meeting. Is not a crime. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #39
BUT......... Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #43
It does sound fishy, don't it? kentuck Sep 2018 #47
Manafort must publicly, specifically, and verbally admit to all charges in court. tableturner Sep 2018 #35
yes, that's true Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #40
A theory on twitter: ecstatic Sep 2018 #42
But then who takes down Trump? Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #48
New York state greymattermom Sep 2018 #52
Manafort lives in Virginia and presumably files his taxes there. Calista241 Sep 2018 #54
all well and good, but if Mueller doesn't stamp out the very real collusion with indictments... Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #57
Hopefully enough dirt on pence to take him down nini Sep 2018 #46
Does he still pay that massive fine greymattermom Sep 2018 #51
Manafort's plea deal includes a cooperation agreement Botany Sep 2018 #58
How do we know it was a "deal?" Maybe they tried for a deal, didn't.. LAS14 Sep 2018 #59
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