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24. Not so fast. Even the Nordic model is not socialism. It's highly taxed capitalism...

Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:26 PM

Sep 2018

with the tax revenue being used to pay for a generous safety net.

Tell me one instance in history where actual socialism (means of production and distribution in the hands of the public) has succeeded and endured?

Communism in the Soviet Union? In China, in Cuba, in Venezuela? No.

Let's be clear, there is no such place.

The Nordic model, a mixture of capitalism with socialism is not socialism so pump the brakes already and call it what it is.

It is certainly not the textbook socialism you are advocating that we embrace 52 days before an election that will decide if we stay a democracy and not a fascist state.

Pump the brakes.

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Bill Maher Nails it! [View all] Catch2.2 Sep 2018 OP

"We're not socialists, you're traitors." I love that for a Dem slogan. brush Sep 2018 #1

"We are socialists, you are traitors" Pick one, America. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #2

+1 CentralMass Sep 2018 #3

Missing the point. Repugs are already running anti-socialist ads. brush Sep 2018 #4

Of course they are! Why run scared...did we learn nothing from running away from "liberalism"? Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #5

You're forgetting that socialism is still a bogeyman for millions. brush Sep 2018 #7

We will agree to disagree..."crickets" on the mass propaganda, as Maher says, is foolish. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #8

Who said anything about crickets? I agree with Maher's: "We're not socialists... brush Sep 2018 #9

Socialism is the greatest hope for millions icaria Sep 2018 #21

Not so fast. Even the Nordic model is not socialism. It's highly taxed capitalism... brush Sep 2018 #24

Then do what Elizabeth Warren did when she ran against Scott Brown. Blue_true Sep 2018 #25

All that is true. No disagreement here, but IMO let's wait until we get in power... brush Sep 2018 #27

We need to confront their charge of socialism by pointing out that all around us socialism Blue_true Sep 2018 #28

You know that and I know that but does the average voter not into... brush Sep 2018 #29

I don't agree with your points, but I agree to disagree and leave things at that. Blue_true Sep 2018 #37

We need to shout that from the fucking rooftops! Initech Sep 2018 #17

I'm not a Socialist Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #30

That's fair. As a matter of fact most calling themselves socialists are following the Nordic... brush Sep 2018 #32

Yes and more regulation Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #34

I'm with you on that. brush Sep 2018 #35

He's right. Dems just don't get it. We're on the right side of history MariaCSR Sep 2018 #6

Maria, you're shooting at your allies for your enemies. Hortensis Sep 2018 #10

Why aren't our people on the Sunday talk shows? MariaCSR Sep 2018 #11

Very good question. Why aren't the Sunday shows Hortensis Sep 2018 #13

So they should just show up and walk into the studio and start talking? Caliman73 Sep 2018 #14

Excellent points, I'd offer Avenatti as a counter example, just for recent comparison. N/t Brogrizzly Sep 2018 #15

He is popular right now because of the sensationalism of the Daniels case. Caliman73 Sep 2018 #18

It's not just a liberal issue, obviously manufactured consent is driven more so on the right. Brogrizzly Sep 2018 #19

YES! YES THEY SHOULD. MariaCSR Sep 2018 #23

And we seem to vilify and get rid Duppers Sep 2018 #16

Agreed Catch2.2 Sep 2018 #20

Apparently he's not listening to his own governor. roamer65 Sep 2018 #12

Bill Maher got the Kavanaugh letter wrong PDittie Sep 2018 #22

Crickets. Traitors underpants Sep 2018 #26

Maher always loves attacking Dems. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #31

"Socialism is why you don't have to bring your own highway when you want to drive somewhere." mac56 Sep 2018 #33

Easily understandable bdamomma Sep 2018 #36