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85. The accusations were sketchy. You must not have been paying attention,

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:52 AM

Sep 2018

Tweeden, the first accuser presented a gag photo as evidence that Franken groped her. It was quickly shown that Franken, then a comedian on a USO tour with her, was hamming it up for the camera and not really touching her.

I mean, come on, who would grope someone in front of a photographer and several witnesses?

And on that same tour Tweeden herself is photographer groping the ass of a guitar player on stage no less in front of thousands of witnesses. So yeah, that allegations was nothing but sketchy.

Shall I go on, because I can?

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An uncomfortable number of people here missing the point of #metoo and people like Al Franken [View all] realmirage Sep 2018 OP

Due process manor321 Sep 2018 #1

Are you willing to say the same realmirage Sep 2018 #3

Al Franken doesn't even know who half his accusers are wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #45

The man quit. What does that tell you? realmirage Sep 2018 #99

He quit because his own party demanded he do it. Drahthaardogs Sep 2018 #106

You would never quit a job wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #112

What due process? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #69

That was Mahers problem. He is a shock jock who offends on a regular basis. CentralMass Sep 2018 #2

Not just Maher, seeing it here a lot too realmirage Sep 2018 #4

Shh... Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #28

The majority here call for nothing less than due process. CentralMass Sep 2018 #39

Three of the accusers are lying trumpanzees wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #46

I understand, howver a hearing where all parties could testify would have likely revealed the truth CentralMass Sep 2018 #49

Yes, let him have a chance to face his accusers directly wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #52

Because the allegations weren't part of a criminal case. PoliticAverse Sep 2018 #78

They weren't part of a criminal case wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #111

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't think he should have resigned. PoliticAverse Sep 2018 #124

Yes, he resigned wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #131

What Due Process do you mean? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #70

It really pisses me off when someone supports wasupaloopa Sep 2018 #5

Imagine how much it pisses people off who realmirage Sep 2018 #8

So now you are convicting him again with your post wasupaloopa Sep 2018 #41

Imagine how it pisses people off who HAVE been victims kcr Sep 2018 #51

Odd that you are so eager realmirage Sep 2018 #76

Odd is it? ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #113

Exactly PatSeg Sep 2018 #90

I don't think those who defend Franken are missing a damned thing. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #6

Hear, hear! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2018 #7

The accusations weren't sketchy realmirage Sep 2018 #10

Bullshit AND, I am not, have not gone after the accusers.. so that is MORE Bullshit. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #11

your own words: realmirage Sep 2018 #16

The accusations were not investigated, were anonymous, were sketchy, given no due process. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #17

So you're willing to give the same benefit of the doubt realmirage Sep 2018 #21

You really don't get it at all. I don't know if you are intentionally being obtuse so as to annoy hlthe2b Sep 2018 #22

You seem quite angry from the get go. realmirage Sep 2018 #25

Your original Post subject line was offensive and rude. When you start out that way... hlthe2b Sep 2018 #27

It wasn't aimed at you realmirage Sep 2018 #30

There has been offensive in this thread ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #114

I think you're confused about due process Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #72

None of us is confused.. Your constant rehash is ridiculous. No, it was not in court, but it is hlthe2b Sep 2018 #81

No the "due process" argument is ridiculous. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #87

We ALL have hlthe2b Sep 2018 #89

What does that mean? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #91

Of course you are ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #115

Never said I was Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #118

You are hilarious ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #119

Why don't we discuss the issue. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #121

Is your point that... tonedevil Sep 2018 #122

Pretty sure? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #123

From the FAQ for the website... tonedevil Sep 2018 #127

That is still not a determination of guilt or innocence Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #130

As I said from my first post here... tonedevil Sep 2018 #134

Never once said that Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #135

Let's review the allegations wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #50

I'm still really confused about the Bettie Sep 2018 #63

At least it got Doug Jones elected wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #65

Excellent post. yardwork Sep 2018 #66

Fantastic post. Shocking hatred of Al by some on this thread. OnDoutside Sep 2018 #104

The accusations were sketchy. You must not have been paying attention, brush Sep 2018 #85

Hatchet job from the word go. Separation Sep 2018 #126

Agree 100% Autumn Sep 2018 #13

X 10000000 ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #24

Exactly! Thank you. mountain grammy Sep 2018 #40

Well said! BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #48

+1 And, why have there been no more accusers since he left the Senate? nt spooky3 Sep 2018 #54

Matt Lauer, Bill O'Reilly, Harvey Weinstein, Louis CK, Donald Trump, Roy Moore mythology Sep 2018 #59

Those cases are entirely different from Franken's, and you know it. Nt spooky3 Sep 2018 #60

What are you talking about? Plenty of women kept coming forward against them. brush Sep 2018 #86

"a man with integrity" joshcryer Sep 2018 #61

+1 leftstreet Sep 2018 #137

Thing with Franken was we knew it was a set up from the very get-go. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #9

It wasn't the Republicans. There were real women that accused realmirage Sep 2018 #12

Unidentified sources are not credible and one was a GOP operative and a friend of Hannity... Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #15

One was a GOP operative so realmirage Sep 2018 #18

There was no evidence...only the GOP operative ...Hannity's buddy and the facebook Trumper and Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #34

Yes I did...and find none credible. Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #44

Like Dr. Ford is a Democratic Operative? Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #29

Voice of reason realmirage Sep 2018 #32

Not true...one could be true... and one not true. Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #35

How do you know? Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #38

One was friends with Hannity...the facebook one was completely not credible in my opinion and Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #43

You'll never make any headway BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #57

Only two of 8 were anonymous. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #58

If Franken doesn't know who the accusers are wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #67

By your definition, half were not anonymous. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #92

Sorry...I don't buy people grope others with a camera pointed at them... Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #108

Before Dr. Ford revealed her name, did you discount her allegation against Kavanaugh? brooklynite Sep 2018 #71

She is also a model JonLP24 Sep 2018 #125

The only thing that was credible was the photo. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #20

You sure do seem eager to dismiss realmirage Sep 2018 #23

Franken's Democratic colleagues panicked during the Alabama senate race. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #26

Do you really think Al Franken would resign over a sexual offense if he was totally innocent? realmirage Sep 2018 #31

Yes. If he was told that he was a distraction by party leadership... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #33

He didn't resign over a sexual offense. DFW Sep 2018 #74

Amen ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #117

No need to DFW Sep 2018 #132

Not just that Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #73

It is over...I think Franken should have fought but I thnk he did do it for the party... Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #37

No, you did NOT review all the allegations wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #55

Here, I did your research for you. realmirage Sep 2018 #101

You skipped these parts wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #110

Tommy Did No Such Thing ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #56

Yet they ALL dissappeared AFTER he resigned.......... Bengus81 Sep 2018 #82

He resigned becuse this bunch threw him under the bus...... Bengus81 Sep 2018 #83

The photo was a joke...from what I remember. Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #36

Well some of us did BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #47

Maher is a bigot and misogynist ass. Oneironaut Sep 2018 #14

You nailed it. realmirage Sep 2018 #19

So you obviously have a vendetta against Maher Bradshaw3 Sep 2018 #42

Pointing out the truth calmly realmirage Sep 2018 #77

No that isn't what you are doing Bradshaw3 Sep 2018 #96

I can use the word shit calmly. realmirage Sep 2018 #98

Still ignoring all the points and questions Bradshaw3 Sep 2018 #141

+1 OnDoutside Sep 2018 #109

She was told "this is not your place" when she interrupted Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #53

+1 NT Adrahil Sep 2018 #116

She interrupted him during his monologue wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #120

During New Rules, you don't interrupt. Everyone knows that. phleshdef Sep 2018 #138

Not the point, it is the way he did it and she has commented on it also. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #139

She isn't the first nor will she be the last to be shut down... phleshdef Sep 2018 #140

Al's situation should not have been handled the way it was handled. IluvPitties Sep 2018 #62

They aren't missing the point, they just can't acknowledge it mythology Sep 2018 #64

Tell that to the people wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #68

You are one of the few who gets it realmirage Sep 2018 #75

This is incorrect. betsuni Sep 2018 #80

Franken's situation is nothing like LouieCK YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #84

Yes. All this and more! A perfect summary and analysis. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #88

You don't recall? Here, let me remind you. realmirage Sep 2018 #100

Exactly, MuseRider Sep 2018 #93

The accusations against Franken were spurious standingtall Sep 2018 #79

Spurious? No realmirage Sep 2018 #97

I dont believe accusers on blind faith and yes surious accusations standingtall Sep 2018 #107

I and my brother understood that once someone said "no", "not that" or "not now", that was it. haele Sep 2018 #94

Maher is a misogynist wryter2000 Sep 2018 #95

I'm not certain that Franken did what he was accused of doing. Crunchy Frog Sep 2018 #102

Franken knew that if he didn't resign, Democrats wouldn't.be able to hold Republicans Doodley Sep 2018 #103

in a nutshell. Kurt V. Sep 2018 #129

Exactly loyalsister Sep 2018 #136

We are not missing the point... MicaelS Sep 2018 #105

Metoo and Franken badly missed in proportionality and intent. Funtatlaguy Sep 2018 #128

I Joined DU in 2001 ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #133