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Warren DeMontague

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147. It's the sort of new-agey gibberish that many believers like to float, but that

Tue Jan 3, 2012, 05:49 PM

Jan 2012

completely falls apart under any sort of logical scrutiny- come to think of it, sort of like a LOT of religious assertions.

You know, "it doesn't matter what you believe- ONLY that you believe!!!"

Oh, really? Because that sort of makes concepts like "belief" as well as "rationally attempting to understand the universe" sort of meaningless...

Kind of how 12 Steppers are supposed to believe in "God", but "God" can be a doorknob, or a tree, or the Universe... ("he" still likes the Lord's Prayer, of course, but that doesnt mean he's not a doorknob)

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Johm Lennon wrote 'no religion' in Imagine [View all] malaise Jan 2012 OP

Cee Lo Green Outrages John Lennon Fans By Changing Lyrics to 'Imagine' spanone Jan 2012 #1

Thanks for explaining this mysterious OP. undeterred Jan 2012 #10

ignoramus getdown Jan 2012 #15

thank you. barbtries Jan 2012 #22

Thanks for posting the link malaise Jan 2012 #29

hehehe spanone Jan 2012 #41

Not everyone pays attention to New Year's shenanigans. HuckleB Jan 2012 #128

Cool malaise Jan 2012 #167

Hey "Cee-Lo" Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #33

Just dropped him from my FB like list. Uggggh* glinda Jan 2012 #96

Why did you "like" him in the first place?!?!? bigwillq Jan 2012 #156

Work he did with Mighty Mouse. Soulful. Bluesy voice. Liked it. Did glinda Jan 2012 #162

Rememeber when that asshat from Limp Bizkit shat all over "Wish You Were Here"? Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #36

I don't think he is a moron Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #2

he showed no judgement. that's a moron. you don't just change lyrics like that. moron getdown Jan 2012 #17

He showed judgment alright malaise Jan 2012 #24

well put getdown Jan 2012 #54

Exactly right. AngryOldDem Jan 2012 #106

I heard it on NYE Politicalboi Jan 2012 #3

Changing the words changes the meaning...and that ruins the song. That said... Solly Mack Jan 2012 #4

That's why I'm surprised at the reaction... jberryhill Jan 2012 #6

So to you whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #11

They are all mutually contradictory jberryhill Jan 2012 #12

Well you can, but it would be nonsensical, as Ce Lo's version is whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #18

I try to be an omnitheist. boppers Jan 2012 #56

I respect your belief(s) whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #60

atheism is the complete lack of a belief in the supernatural. not a belief system. piratefish08 Jan 2012 #77

Atheists tend to believe in gravity, mass, logic, reason, etc. boppers Jan 2012 #84

I think you may be confusing Atheism with Objectivism Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #151

I said "tend to believe". boppers Jan 2012 #171

Agree. If I "imagine" that all religion's true, the world becomes a freaky place. McCamy Taylor Jan 2012 #66

That's kind of the beauty of it. boppers Jan 2012 #85

Uh, no. Only a very few "exclude" other religions. johnaries Jan 2012 #73

And.... jberryhill Jan 2012 #75

My head wouldn't be exploding either way. (all or no) Solly Mack Jan 2012 #13

You kind of editorialized. boppers Jan 2012 #86

I'll stick with mine and I'm sure you'll stick with yours. Solly Mack Jan 2012 #87

Well, he was already asked, fortunately: boppers Jan 2012 #92

There is also an interview from the 80's where he says something along the lines of.... Solly Mack Jan 2012 #95

Actually there's a huge difference Scootaloo Jan 2012 #23

Tell me more about that dancing naked part jberryhill Jan 2012 #27

Than all "religions true" is a Hieronymous Bosch painting then? glinda Jan 2012 #97

Yeah, that sounds about right Scootaloo Jan 2012 #102

I propose we stop the DUzies deucemagnet Jan 2012 #166

Big difference. Not the same at all. yardwork Jan 2012 #52

There's a difference between "interpreting a song" and changing the lyrics justiceischeap Jan 2012 #104

Well said loyalsister Jan 2012 #122

Ha, yeah I thought that too whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #8

LOL Could very well be Solly Mack Jan 2012 #14

For real - LOL malaise Jan 2012 #25

he should have skipped the "no possessions" line Enrique Jan 2012 #5

Lennon made it clear that was the toughest one. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #81

If you're gonna do that pick another fucking song! whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #7

That's how I feel about Wang Dang Sweet Poontang nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #143

John Fugelsang changed up some CeeLo lyrics: PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #9

I figured DU would get around to this. Union Scribe Jan 2012 #16

Your issue is what. Spit it out. Logical Jan 2012 #72

response from the guy Charlemagne Jan 2012 #19

or write your own malaise Jan 2012 #46

So a second rate singer changes the words to a song that he will sing once and noone will remember Synicus Maximus Jan 2012 #20

I remember the Clear Channel memorandum whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #45

Never seen that list, the entry for RAtM made me laugh: boppers Jan 2012 #59

Lol, I know! whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #61

Hadn't seen that list before but it made me remember the Oct 2001 Groundworks concert suffragette Jan 2012 #101

I'll bet the Christians said that when the Romans decided to rewrite the words of Jesus to prop up McCamy Taylor Jan 2012 #67

what did they do? barbtries Jan 2012 #21

Oh my go... eh, sorry, don't give a shit. hughee99 Jan 2012 #26

Sure and that ReTHUG ahole Cain malaise Jan 2012 #28

Some people are grntuscarora Jan 2012 #38

When your children grow up, they will either recognize Lennon's version as a classic, hughee99 Jan 2012 #43

I submit: grntuscarora Jan 2012 #51

I doubt that a one-off New Year's Eve performance will become the classic for many, even youngsters fishwax Jan 2012 #90

Though it's like the Demi Moore film version of Scarlet Letter Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #79

I don't think he changed the whole *song* 180 degrees.... boppers Jan 2012 #88

That was simply outrageous. AngryOldDem Jan 2012 #30

I find it ironic to the nth degree that people who decry fundamentalism Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #99

Sorry that I have an opinion on this. AngryOldDem Jan 2012 #103

Imagine no kids...on my lawn...nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #108

360 degrees opposite? Dr. Strange Jan 2012 #137

Like all non-believers, Lennon was supposed to keep his trap good and shut Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #31

Lol, why are you so mad? nt Union Scribe Jan 2012 #117

I don't like to see no-talent assclowns crap all over great songs. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #120

meh fishwax Jan 2012 #32

Oh the irony. boppers Jan 2012 #34

There is some music that is sacred to me. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #49

Imagine is pure? What horseshit. AngryAmish Jan 2012 #109

Yeah, that's the thing about art, your mileage may vary. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #112

There are huge multinational corporations pushing this shit AngryAmish Jan 2012 #113

"Realize that you are being manipulated" MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #115

So if I like John Lennon's "Imagine" song, then I'm a corporate mark? Hugabear Jan 2012 #116

That idiot with the fur coat, what a tool that creep is. The first I heard of him was his Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #35

i find this VERY disturbing. Greybnk48 Jan 2012 #37

Ding ding we have a winner malaise Jan 2012 #48

Oh fuck that shit. The song was used in a Cisco commercial. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #142

He's clearly not a fan of it, so why was he singing it it the first place? limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #39

What it was about. Burgman Jan 2012 #40

My that is a nice photo. glinda Jan 2012 #98

As a fan of his since his Goodie Mob days, Cee-Lo was dumb for doing this boxman15 Jan 2012 #42

If you don't like the song's lyrics, write your own damn song. Trekologer Jan 2012 #44

Not a big fan of folk music, then? boppers Jan 2012 #89

Least he didn't change John's name.... A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2012 #47

Heh, no shit. whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #50

haha! getdown Jan 2012 #55

Next he'll change Hyphen Jan 2012 #53

Thanks for this I added my own comments. Lint Head Jan 2012 #57

*** Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #58

A nice cover. Burgman Jan 2012 #76

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But didn't Lennon also write "the goddess really smiled thucythucy Jan 2012 #64

god is not religion spanone Jan 2012 #70

I agree. thucythucy Jan 2012 #74

A response from John: boppers Jan 2012 #93

Well that's going to ruin the song Union Scribe Jan 2012 #119

One can have faith without organized religion. McCamy Taylor Jan 2012 #65

Remember the movie "Breaking Glass"? They made the singer change "Kick Big Brother in the Ass" to McCamy Taylor Jan 2012 #68

Yep. whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #71

Cee Lo Green is another religious fundamentalist who will twist and lie to Dawson Leery Jan 2012 #69

well, not sure he is a fundie, just anti atheist maybe, he said all religions are true, not JI7 Jan 2012 #80

hahaha nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #82

Considering John's TOLERANT nature, johnaries Jan 2012 #78

I tend to think John would have adopted it for his own version. boppers Jan 2012 #91

Oh brother. Get over it, Lennon fundies. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #83

Heh. Union Scribe Jan 2012 #118

Don't give a fuck really. More bothered by Slayer's cover of Minor Threat's "Guilty of Being White" ButterflyBlood Jan 2012 #94

I thought I misheard Cee Lo when he sang that. It is ridiculous to change Liquorice Jan 2012 #100

Yoko's been doing some odd things with John's work. T S Justly Jan 2012 #105

Artists don't have to seek permission to perform a published song. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #114

WKRP in Cincinnatti would agree. sofa king Jan 2012 #107

This is simple for me. 99Forever Jan 2012 #110

Oh geez, You are all being "war on christmas" O'Reilly crazy over this. phleshdef Jan 2012 #111

Thankfully that's your opinion malaise Jan 2012 #121

You must be CeLo Green's agent... joeybee12 Jan 2012 #124

It's just a song. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #127

Then take a knife to the Mona Lisa and cut out part of it... joeybee12 Jan 2012 #129

Theres only one Mona Lisa. John Lennon's recording of the song still exists, undamaged and you can.. phleshdef Jan 2012 #132

So Mona Lisa = Imagine? Hahahahhhhhha Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #133

If the idea of shedding dogmatic assertions in the name of peace is so important Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #135

It's an irony sandwich: in defending no religion whatsoever, people deify Lennon. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #138

It's irony when one can claim the innocence of not being aware Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #144

I can't even name one song by him. I'm a rock music only kind of person. phleshdef Jan 2012 #130

Some things cross the line and are unacceptable. 99Forever Jan 2012 #126

Grow up. phleshdef Jan 2012 #131

Can you add me, too? Because it's just a fucking song. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #134

No problem. 99Forever Jan 2012 #136

"and a terrible one at that" Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #145

Not shitty music, for openers. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #146

yeah, right. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #149

My ipod could be a carbon copy of yours Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #150

I doubt it. But it's nice to know I have a 160GB dick. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #152

Anything I say will be seized upon, even if it's your favorite, too. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #153

try me. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #154

Said the scorpion to the frog. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #155

I'm a Deadhead, so I'm used to hearing hipsters make fun of my music. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #157

New Mastersounds. The Perceptions. Johnny Hammond. Boogaloo Joe Jones. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #158

Never heard of 'em, but that means nothing, being that I am out of touch Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #160

Less electric than P-Funk. Even old P-Funk. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #161

fair 'nuff. I'll check em out Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #164

How could ALL religion be true, anyway? AzDar Jan 2012 #123

It's the sort of new-agey gibberish that many believers like to float, but that Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #147

It could all be a different cultural expression for the same thing treestar Jan 2012 #170

It's just a song. A pretty song with nice thoughts, but just a song. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #125

My opinion doesn't spring from dogma. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #140

In college Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #141

Bad Cee Lo Green AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #139

How DARE you change those lyrics??!!?? hfojvt Jan 2012 #165

"Imagine there's no outrage, over trivial things..." Throd Jan 2012 #148

that's pretty hard to do hfojvt Jan 2012 #163

it staggers the imagination hfojvt Jan 2012 #159

You ever create an original work? whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #168

I love John Lennon but this is just silly easttexaslefty Jan 2012 #169