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ProSense

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Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:39 PM Aug 2012

Social Security [View all]

If you support cutting Social Security, you're not a Democrat.

If you lie about Democrats wanting to cut Social Security, you're not a Democrat.

If you are demagoguing the issue of Social Security, you're not a Democrat.

Those are Republican positions and actions.

The President makes a lot of speeches on the subject, sometimes he simply mentions the program and sometimes he's specific.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, first -- this is a very well-informed young man here. (Laughter.) You’re exactly right that the way the Social Security system works, there’s what’s called -- there’s basically a cap on your Social Security, which there isn’t, by the way, on Medicare. But Social Security, it only goes up to the first $107,000; and you’re right, somebody who makes -- who has net assets of $250 million and are making maybe $5 million a year just on interest or capital gains or something, just a fraction of it’s going to Social Security. I think there’s a way for us to make adjustments on the Social Security tax that would be fairer than the system that we use right now.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/08/17/remarks-president-town-hall-meeting-alpha-illinois


But the fixes that are required for Social Security are not huge, the way they are with Medicare. Medicare, that is a real problem. If we don't get a handle on it, it will bankrupt us. With Social Security, we could make adjustments to the payroll tax. For example -- I'll just give you one example -- right now, your Social Security -- your payroll tax is capped at $109,000. So what that means is, is that -- how many people -- I don't mean to pry into your business, but how many people here make less than $109,000 every year? (Laughter.) All right, this is a pretty rich audience -- a lot of people kept their hands down. (Laughter.) I'm impressed. (Laughter.)

No, look, what it means is basically for 95 percent of Americans, they pay -- every dollar you earn, you pay into the payroll tax. But think about that other 5 percent that's making more than $109,000 a year. Warren Buffett, he pays the payroll tax on the first $109,000 he makes, and then for the other $10 billion -- (laughter) -- he doesn't pay payroll tax.


So -- yes, somebody said, "What?" (Laughter.) Yes, that's right. That's the way it works.

So what we've said is, well, don't we -- doesn't it make sense to maybe have that payroll tax cut off at a higher level, or have people -- maybe you hold people harmless till they make $250,000 a year, but between $250,000 and a million or something, they start paying payroll tax again -- just to make sure that the fund overall is solvent.

So that would just be one example. That's not the only way of fixing it, but if you made a slight adjustment like that, then Social Security would be there well into the future and it would be fine. All right? (Applause.)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-town-hall-meeting-henderson-nevada

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Social Security [View all] ProSense Aug 2012 OP
k&r... spanone Aug 2012 #1
Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #2
I think that ProSense Aug 2012 #3
Posting a factual quote is demagoguery? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #5
What do you expect to hear? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #6
One was ProSense Aug 2012 #9
FYI: ProSense Aug 2012 #7
Manny will be hanging onto that same branch unitl Obama leaves office in 2016. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #8
Only five more years of this. ProSense Aug 2012 #10
+1 JoePhilly Aug 2012 #13
It's like arguing with the batting cage machine. Robb Aug 2012 #15
Great analogy... SidDithers Aug 2012 #18
"arguing with the batting cage machine"? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #29
Some things never change... Cha Aug 2012 #24
NOT elleng Aug 2012 #11
K&R and Bookmarked SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #4
+1. There it is, the solution. freshwest Aug 2012 #12
:) SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #14
When the ProSense Aug 2012 #16
DU rec and bookmarking... SidDithers Aug 2012 #17
Great idea! Increase payroll tax to higher incomes, as well! StrictlyRockers Aug 2012 #19
President Obama Weekly Address August 13th, 2010: Honoring Social Security, Not Privatizing It freshwest Aug 2012 #20
thanks for adding that one as well :) nt SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #21
You're welcome. :) freshwest Aug 2012 #22
Yet when he actually offered a plan in debt ceiling negotiations... woo me with science Aug 2012 #23
Politics. joshcryer Aug 2012 #28
I know! woo me with science Aug 2012 #32
It was never going to pass the Senate. joshcryer Aug 2012 #33
You know ProSense Aug 2012 #43
That is flatly, brazenly untrue, woo me with science Aug 2012 #44
WTF? ProSense Aug 2012 #45
Where are the links to the proposals? n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #46
CORRECT Skittles Aug 2012 #51
It's no use, woo Doctor_J Aug 2012 #47
Well, that ProSense Aug 2012 #48
So you don't think... a2liberal Aug 2012 #25
It's all eleven trazillion dimensional chess! nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #31
Obama Frustrated He Doesn’t Get Credit For Wanting to Cut Social Security and Medicare jimmyd13 Aug 2012 #26
From NorquistDogLake? Are you shittin' me? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #30
In all seriousness, this is how Third Way infiltration has allowed the one percent woo me with science Aug 2012 #34
Obama ProSense Aug 2012 #41
K&R flamingdem Aug 2012 #27
Thanks Pro. You're the best at knocking down the Stein/Johnson/Anderson/Romney contingent.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #35
That's just for people idiotic enough to believe labels eridani Aug 2012 #37
Rationalize it any way you want. The fact remains, a bunch of people don't want to be called..... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #39
People can't buy what they never hear about eridani Aug 2012 #40
Perhaps you missed this part? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #50
If people have a problem with single payer messengers-- eridani Aug 2012 #53
Those polls were from a couple of years ago. Anything more recent? I never said "people.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #54
The MSM is working for the 1% eridani Aug 2012 #55
But you guys have "passion" on your side. Who needs money? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #56
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #49
When I hear a republican B Calm Aug 2012 #36
Excellent pushback of those bent on muddying the waters of this election. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #38
It's going ProSense Aug 2012 #42
Just a thought... kentuck Aug 2012 #52
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