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Bradshaw3

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96. No that isn't what you are doing

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:16 PM

Sep 2018

Your own words such as calling him a shit isn't teling the truth calmly. Your own words reveal your biases.

Instead you attack one of the best voices Dems had in the senate, one of the best voices they have among celebrities (who puts his money where his mouth is while you of course ignore my question about your contributions to Democrats) and you resort to telling those who disagree on this thread that they are being emotional and attack many DUers in the OP. Why? Because you say they are making you uncomfortable for having a different (and a much more nuanced and truthful point of view on Franken than you). All while using one of the leaders of the Franken lynch mob in Goldberg as some kind of validator.

So one great Democratic voice has been chased into oblivion and you would like to silence another. That is a vendetta and one that is divisive.

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An uncomfortable number of people here missing the point of #metoo and people like Al Franken [View all] realmirage Sep 2018 OP

Due process manor321 Sep 2018 #1

Are you willing to say the same realmirage Sep 2018 #3

Al Franken doesn't even know who half his accusers are wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #45

The man quit. What does that tell you? realmirage Sep 2018 #99

He quit because his own party demanded he do it. Drahthaardogs Sep 2018 #106

You would never quit a job wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #112

What due process? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #69

That was Mahers problem. He is a shock jock who offends on a regular basis. CentralMass Sep 2018 #2

Not just Maher, seeing it here a lot too realmirage Sep 2018 #4

Shh... Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #28

The majority here call for nothing less than due process. CentralMass Sep 2018 #39

Three of the accusers are lying trumpanzees wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #46

I understand, howver a hearing where all parties could testify would have likely revealed the truth CentralMass Sep 2018 #49

Yes, let him have a chance to face his accusers directly wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #52

Because the allegations weren't part of a criminal case. PoliticAverse Sep 2018 #78

They weren't part of a criminal case wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #111

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't think he should have resigned. PoliticAverse Sep 2018 #124

Yes, he resigned wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #131

What Due Process do you mean? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #70

It really pisses me off when someone supports wasupaloopa Sep 2018 #5

Imagine how much it pisses people off who realmirage Sep 2018 #8

So now you are convicting him again with your post wasupaloopa Sep 2018 #41

Imagine how it pisses people off who HAVE been victims kcr Sep 2018 #51

Odd that you are so eager realmirage Sep 2018 #76

Odd is it? ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #113

Exactly PatSeg Sep 2018 #90

I don't think those who defend Franken are missing a damned thing. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #6

Hear, hear! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2018 #7

The accusations weren't sketchy realmirage Sep 2018 #10

Bullshit AND, I am not, have not gone after the accusers.. so that is MORE Bullshit. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #11

your own words: realmirage Sep 2018 #16

The accusations were not investigated, were anonymous, were sketchy, given no due process. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #17

So you're willing to give the same benefit of the doubt realmirage Sep 2018 #21

You really don't get it at all. I don't know if you are intentionally being obtuse so as to annoy hlthe2b Sep 2018 #22

You seem quite angry from the get go. realmirage Sep 2018 #25

Your original Post subject line was offensive and rude. When you start out that way... hlthe2b Sep 2018 #27

It wasn't aimed at you realmirage Sep 2018 #30

There has been offensive in this thread ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #114

I think you're confused about due process Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #72

None of us is confused.. Your constant rehash is ridiculous. No, it was not in court, but it is hlthe2b Sep 2018 #81

No the "due process" argument is ridiculous. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #87

We ALL have hlthe2b Sep 2018 #89

What does that mean? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #91

Of course you are ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #115

Never said I was Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #118

You are hilarious ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #119

Why don't we discuss the issue. Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #121

Is your point that... tonedevil Sep 2018 #122

Pretty sure? Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #123

From the FAQ for the website... tonedevil Sep 2018 #127

That is still not a determination of guilt or innocence Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #130

As I said from my first post here... tonedevil Sep 2018 #134

Never once said that Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #135

Let's review the allegations wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #50

I'm still really confused about the Bettie Sep 2018 #63

At least it got Doug Jones elected wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #65

Excellent post. yardwork Sep 2018 #66

Fantastic post. Shocking hatred of Al by some on this thread. OnDoutside Sep 2018 #104

The accusations were sketchy. You must not have been paying attention, brush Sep 2018 #85

Hatchet job from the word go. Separation Sep 2018 #126

Agree 100% Autumn Sep 2018 #13

X 10000000 ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #24

Exactly! Thank you. mountain grammy Sep 2018 #40

Well said! BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #48

+1 And, why have there been no more accusers since he left the Senate? nt spooky3 Sep 2018 #54

Matt Lauer, Bill O'Reilly, Harvey Weinstein, Louis CK, Donald Trump, Roy Moore mythology Sep 2018 #59

Those cases are entirely different from Franken's, and you know it. Nt spooky3 Sep 2018 #60

What are you talking about? Plenty of women kept coming forward against them. brush Sep 2018 #86

"a man with integrity" joshcryer Sep 2018 #61

+1 leftstreet Sep 2018 #137

Thing with Franken was we knew it was a set up from the very get-go. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #9

It wasn't the Republicans. There were real women that accused realmirage Sep 2018 #12

Unidentified sources are not credible and one was a GOP operative and a friend of Hannity... Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #15

One was a GOP operative so realmirage Sep 2018 #18

There was no evidence...only the GOP operative ...Hannity's buddy and the facebook Trumper and Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #34

Yes I did...and find none credible. Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #44

Like Dr. Ford is a Democratic Operative? Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #29

Voice of reason realmirage Sep 2018 #32

Not true...one could be true... and one not true. Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #35

How do you know? Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #38

One was friends with Hannity...the facebook one was completely not credible in my opinion and Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #43

You'll never make any headway BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #57

Only two of 8 were anonymous. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #58

If Franken doesn't know who the accusers are wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #67

By your definition, half were not anonymous. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #92

Sorry...I don't buy people grope others with a camera pointed at them... Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #108

Before Dr. Ford revealed her name, did you discount her allegation against Kavanaugh? brooklynite Sep 2018 #71

She is also a model JonLP24 Sep 2018 #125

The only thing that was credible was the photo. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #20

You sure do seem eager to dismiss realmirage Sep 2018 #23

Franken's Democratic colleagues panicked during the Alabama senate race. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #26

Do you really think Al Franken would resign over a sexual offense if he was totally innocent? realmirage Sep 2018 #31

Yes. If he was told that he was a distraction by party leadership... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #33

He didn't resign over a sexual offense. DFW Sep 2018 #74

Amen ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #117

No need to DFW Sep 2018 #132

Not just that Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #73

It is over...I think Franken should have fought but I thnk he did do it for the party... Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #37

No, you did NOT review all the allegations wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #55

Here, I did your research for you. realmirage Sep 2018 #101

You skipped these parts wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #110

Tommy Did No Such Thing ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #56

Yet they ALL dissappeared AFTER he resigned.......... Bengus81 Sep 2018 #82

He resigned becuse this bunch threw him under the bus...... Bengus81 Sep 2018 #83

The photo was a joke...from what I remember. Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #36

Well some of us did BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #47

Maher is a bigot and misogynist ass. Oneironaut Sep 2018 #14

You nailed it. realmirage Sep 2018 #19

So you obviously have a vendetta against Maher Bradshaw3 Sep 2018 #42

Pointing out the truth calmly realmirage Sep 2018 #77

No that isn't what you are doing Bradshaw3 Sep 2018 #96

I can use the word shit calmly. realmirage Sep 2018 #98

Still ignoring all the points and questions Bradshaw3 Sep 2018 #141

+1 OnDoutside Sep 2018 #109

She was told "this is not your place" when she interrupted Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #53

+1 NT Adrahil Sep 2018 #116

She interrupted him during his monologue wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #120

During New Rules, you don't interrupt. Everyone knows that. phleshdef Sep 2018 #138

Not the point, it is the way he did it and she has commented on it also. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #139

She isn't the first nor will she be the last to be shut down... phleshdef Sep 2018 #140

Al's situation should not have been handled the way it was handled. IluvPitties Sep 2018 #62

They aren't missing the point, they just can't acknowledge it mythology Sep 2018 #64

Tell that to the people wellst0nev0ter Sep 2018 #68

You are one of the few who gets it realmirage Sep 2018 #75

This is incorrect. betsuni Sep 2018 #80

Franken's situation is nothing like LouieCK YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #84

Yes. All this and more! A perfect summary and analysis. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #88

You don't recall? Here, let me remind you. realmirage Sep 2018 #100

Exactly, MuseRider Sep 2018 #93

The accusations against Franken were spurious standingtall Sep 2018 #79

Spurious? No realmirage Sep 2018 #97

I dont believe accusers on blind faith and yes surious accusations standingtall Sep 2018 #107

I and my brother understood that once someone said "no", "not that" or "not now", that was it. haele Sep 2018 #94

Maher is a misogynist wryter2000 Sep 2018 #95

I'm not certain that Franken did what he was accused of doing. Crunchy Frog Sep 2018 #102

Franken knew that if he didn't resign, Democrats wouldn't.be able to hold Republicans Doodley Sep 2018 #103

in a nutshell. Kurt V. Sep 2018 #129

Exactly loyalsister Sep 2018 #136

We are not missing the point... MicaelS Sep 2018 #105

Metoo and Franken badly missed in proportionality and intent. Funtatlaguy Sep 2018 #128

I Joined DU in 2001 ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #133