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mcar

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9. My first job out of college was as a PR assistant for a state branch of the

Reply to ehrnst (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 08:58 PM

Sep 2018

American Cancer Society. This was in the early 80s. Couple times a year, the local TV stations would get a tobacco industry shill making the rounds with their "it's not proven that smoking causes cancer" bullshit.

They'd contact us for to send someone for the counterpart of the interview. We always did and our doctors kicked butt.

Forward a few years and same thing. I called the then president of the society (these were cancer docs who volunteered). Asked him to go on and do this interview. He declined. Said " why should we keep doing this? We are giving these liars credence by appearing with them. At this point, they should be ignored."

We didn't do the interview and IIRC, never did another one.

There's evidence and there's bullshit.

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The problem with "I'm entitled to my opinion" is that, all too often, it's used to shelter beliefs [View all] ehrnst Sep 2018 OP

Not your own facts zipplewrath Sep 2018 #1

Yep. Along with... ehrnst Sep 2018 #4

Along with zipplewrath Sep 2018 #5

It's also used as a means to ignore other people's valid ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #2

Unfortunately, I don't just see it from rump supporters. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2018 #3

Nope. It's all too common. kcr Sep 2018 #20

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With the caveat... ehrnst Sep 2018 #10

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To clarify the caveat: ehrnst Sep 2018 #12

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No one is arguing with you, just giving the caveat that people often use that ehrnst Sep 2018 #16

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No one said you weren't.... ehrnst Sep 2018 #18

K&R! JHan Sep 2018 #7

Good post, ehrnst. brer cat Sep 2018 #8

My first job out of college was as a PR assistant for a state branch of the mcar Sep 2018 #9

Unfortunately, so many people believe the bullshit that props up their opinion ehrnst Sep 2018 #13

K&R betsuni Sep 2018 #15

K&R sheshe2 Sep 2018 #19

Its a testanment to just how much perspective comes into play that I can agree with you JCanete Sep 2018 #21

Knowing more than one journalist, and a journalism professor ehrnst Sep 2018 #22

Ehrnst, you'll have to explain to me what you think Factcheck told us that we didn't already know. JCanete Sep 2018 #23

Again... ehrnst Sep 2018 #24

no, what? How did they manage to conclude that when the numbers they cite literally say otherwise? JCanete Sep 2018 #25

You don't understand my rebuttal. ehrnst Sep 2018 #26

Yep, I think we can leave it at that. Dead horse is dead. nt JCanete Sep 2018 #30

People are entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts MustLoveBeagles Sep 2018 #27

Very true nt Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #29

Great post Trumpocalypse Sep 2018 #28

a lot of times, this is just how people back out of a Mexican stand-off yurbud Sep 2018 #31