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SomethingFishy

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24. That's what Imagine is all about?

Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:06 PM

Jan 2012

Well I must say it's an interpretation I have never heard before. But that is what great art is. People interpret what it means according to the baggage they bring with them when they judge the art.

BTW my interpretation is that Religion is a divider of men. Religion is used to make people hate one another. If you are a Jew you are one of "god's chosen people" if you are a Christian "all jews are going to hell" if you are a muslim all Christians and Jews are "infidels". Now as a member of one of these religions you may not believe in those dogma's but that is the position of your "church". I believe that John was trying to tell you to strip away all the bullshit and get in touch with the human being inside.

But that is my interpretation.

Since you are one of the shitters in another thread, well, I personally find your interpretation is suspect.

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I apologize if my being upset at "Imagine" is ruining your day. [View all] SomethingFishy Jan 2012 OP

It's not ruining mine, it's ruining yours. Union Scribe Jan 2012 #1

My day isn't ruined... SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #7

Good grief. Union Scribe Jan 2012 #21

You see "anger" because that is what you brought in here SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #44

Union scribe probably agrees with you more than you think quinnox Jan 2012 #47

Your over-reaction is quite bizarre muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #73

I heard my first Beatle song before they broke big over here. I love them but who cares? roguevalley Jan 2012 #143

.... bigwillq Jan 2012 #25

You are aching for a jury. WingDinger Jan 2012 #2

If I were asked to serve on a jury for this post, I'd say "Leave it!" justiceischeap Jan 2012 #4

I didnt say how a jury would find. Just that he is trying to goad. WingDinger Jan 2012 #12

Cursively? HangOnKids Jan 2012 #94

I kid often. WingDinger Jan 2012 #154

Me too. Why would anyone hide this? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #14

Hide it! JVS Jan 2012 #8

I am at a loss polmaven Jan 2012 #19

I hope we avoid reaching a point where merely expressing an opinion results in a trial... Skip Intro Jan 2012 #111

Agreed! polmaven Jan 2012 #135

And you are aching for attention. nt Javaman Jan 2012 #151

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I'm a Deadhead and I absolutely despise that Album. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #28

Barlow and Weir were real coked out then. TransitJohn Jan 2012 #48

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In the dark was good n/t TransitJohn Jan 2012 #122

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I assume you've made a trip or two to www.archives.org? Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #127

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I loved all their studio stuff up to those albums. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #126

This is probably sacrilige to a true Deadhead, but socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #156

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some people take their religions personally hfojvt Jan 2012 #5

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better inside my head than over it hfojvt Jan 2012 #20

That's what Imagine is all about? SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #24

it appears that music is one of the dividers of men hfojvt Jan 2012 #41

And if you're a Buddhist or a pagan or a Taoist or a Unitarian, everone else is gonna... Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #50

the assumption that ever believer believes every stupid thing someone roguevalley Jan 2012 #144

Oh I am of that generation. I never liked this particular song. My favorite Beatle song was southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #6

"the creepy wife" quinnox Jan 2012 #10

He'll live to see another day instead of yesterday (living in the past) HAHAHAHA southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #23

+++! polmaven Jan 2012 #27

Your welcome. I felt I was right. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #49

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I prefer Dear Prudence myself. :) nt justiceischeap Jan 2012 #16

Well thats ok I don't like either of those songs. Still love yesterday. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #26

Eleanor Rigby and Paperback Writer are my favs... SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #29

I liked Eleanor Rigby but funny Paperback Writer was an easy song. Basic and the melody is catchy southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #84

It's the most 'covered' song of all time. CanSocDem Jan 2012 #35

I have a Beatles CD with all the number one hits. My grandkids beg me to play it in the car all southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #51

The problem with Yesterday for me is that it was used in an anti-drinking public service film yardwork Jan 2012 #88

Yeah Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #95

It's terrible. Very strong visceral reaction. yardwork Jan 2012 #98

"The Long and Winding Road" always pipi_k Jan 2012 #106

with you-"strawberry fields" or "lucy in the sky with diamonds" newspeak Jan 2012 #138

This Song Had Nothing To Do With The Beatles It Is A Lennon Song HangOnKids Jan 2012 #17

I don't care what you think. I didn't ask anyone permission. It was MY opinion. I am entitled southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #40

D'oh, Imagine was not a Beatles song MagickMuffin Jan 2012 #67

Whine, whine, whine. Ask me if I give a dang what you think? Nope I don't care. It's southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #83

I am amused at your continued insults of other's opinions. uppityperson Jan 2012 #100

You know what. I really don't care what you think. You get back what you dish out. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #101

In which case you should be amused by my post. Guess you aren't, which goes against uppityperson Jan 2012 #104

Funny, your really funny. Let me ask you a question. Why is it alright for you to have a opinion, southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #110

"I don't think I asked you for your opinion."" I don't care.""I really don't care what you think" uppityperson Jan 2012 #112

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k&r for those who made the world a better and more beautiful place. n/t Laelth Jan 2012 #11

Isn't it sad that they ended up dying violent deaths. I wonder how different the world sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #18

I just finished replying to a post below SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #65

Every word in your post is true and yet tularetom Jan 2012 #15

As I explained above I wasn't upset till I got here and found SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #37

Sorry we don't mean to hurt your feelings. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #46

It isn't in my nature to bash anybody tularetom Jan 2012 #54

I bet they still are calling you a commie. We never lose that title when your a democratic. LOL southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #85

Well, my mom doesn't call me that anymore tularetom Jan 2012 #96

LOL, well I consider myself really a social democrat like my mother was. My mother died years ago southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #99

The religion of materialism nolabels Jan 2012 #38

Well you just weren't a diehard Beatle fan. I loved the Beatles. But honestly no musician ever southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #45

When you make your outstanding members heroes, they can kill your movements. Also, you charicature t WingDinger Jan 2012 #22

10 years from now this song will STILL be revered and this dude will still be irrelevant. piratefish08 Jan 2012 #30

The Beatles and Lennon rode a wave of change brought about by a whole generation. Skidmore Jan 2012 #31

He was and still is for some folks... justiceischeap Jan 2012 #32

Amen. People need to keep prospective that is for sure. They did help give voice to many but southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #56

Yeah, I'm not sure of the claim they "changed the world." treestar Jan 2012 #74

they, especially Lennon, gave voice to a "generation", as did others. G_j Jan 2012 #76

How dare he NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #33

Here's my thing... it was so bad it was funny. SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #59

For me it changed the meaning of the song. But like I said life goes on and we have more southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #86

you nailed it... handmade34 Jan 2012 #149

Why is this OP not in Entertainment?...n/t monmouth Jan 2012 #34

Same reasons the others aren't. SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #39

True story about John Lennon. I worked for an attorney and his wife here in Palm Beach. She monmouth Jan 2012 #58

I think its in the right place. Don't move it. People are being respectful. Some may not agree bu southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #87

Meh, the bad boy of a glorified boy band. Big fucking deal. JVS Jan 2012 #36

so, does snobbily shitting on Bieber and Swift fans make your sanctimonious self feel better? provis99 Jan 2012 #42

We had a Beiber in my day... Skidmore Jan 2012 #53

Osmond, the Cassidy brothers, SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #69

OMG - more than you know! cyberswede Jan 2012 #139

Well, I am a roadie. I toured with Taylor Swift SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #55

the Beatles and John Lennon were boring, overrated clowns. provis99 Jan 2012 #123

wow! tomp Jan 2012 #132

I imagine we often dismiss with an effete disdain those things which we merely don't like... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #147

Wow 2! LiberalLovinLug Jan 2012 #148

I'm not a fan of either. Hey someone loves their music. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #89

Well . . . gratuitous Jan 2012 #43

Gee,tell us what you really think? LOL southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #90

I dunno. HuckleB Jan 2012 #52

Why is it thin skinned if people SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #57

It's a song. HuckleB Jan 2012 #60

You keep saying "I, me," SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #62

Yes I relate to that story. Some people are standoffish for many reasons. You can understand southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #92

That is one large load of logical fallacies. HuckleB Jan 2012 #121

"where things would have been without him" Cal Carpenter Jan 2012 #61

So John Lennon had no effect on anything. SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #64

Okay Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #72

If you read interviews with him, you see how Lennon was the first to admit his flaws deutsey Jan 2012 #131

almost getdown Jan 2012 #68

well put getdown Jan 2012 #63

A quick note before I go.... I do not have any kind of SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #66

you hit it getdown Jan 2012 #70

+1 for Roger Waters. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #79

I for one can definitely relate to ya. go west young man Jan 2012 #145

Ironically the big doofus sang "Imagine if all religion is true". Bonobo Jan 2012 #71

+1 progdog Jan 2012 #77

Soggy diaper alert! whistler162 Jan 2012 #75

Backstory? As for Lennon, following is my favorite Strelnikov_ Jan 2012 #78

Didn't ruin my day. randome Jan 2012 #80

lighten up francis n/t ejbr Jan 2012 #81

Ugh. Yuck. HangOnKids Jan 2012 #108

As if I care ejbr Jan 2012 #114

Aren't you special HangOnKids Jan 2012 #116

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I guess I've missed the threads where people are shitting on Lennon's fans fishwax Jan 2012 #91

One man's transformative musical experience is another man's sappy dirge. Throd Jan 2012 #93

Agreed. Withywindle Jan 2012 #140

nice post, somethingfishy pitohui Jan 2012 #102

Or, they only care about it as a lifestyle accessory. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #117

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our art is who we are as a people handmade34 Jan 2012 #150

K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2012 #103

+1 Zorra Jan 2012 #119

How many posts do we really need on this? undeterred Jan 2012 #105

Sorry For The Unintended Pun... But It Hits Too Many Chords... WillyT Jan 2012 #107

You can trash threads if you don't approve HangOnKids Jan 2012 #109

Yeah, but if I trash it I can't read the replies... undeterred Jan 2012 #115

Ah yes concerned about something being said about you HangOnKids Jan 2012 #120

Gimme a break ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2012 #125

Very well said malaise Jan 2012 #129

I dunno... I kind of liked it renate Jan 2012 #130

i'm on your side. barbtries Jan 2012 #134

How people react to a cover of a song is of little regard to me... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #136

Cirque du Soleil tribute to The Beatles was MAGNIFICENT!!! bvar22 Jan 2012 #137

"Imagine" is pretty much the "Atheist Ballad". PassingFair Jan 2012 #141

I can understand why you're upset. JoeyT Jan 2012 #142

"I understand. Not everyone can grasp the concept of music having a powerful effect on peoples lives roguevalley Jan 2012 #146

I like the Beatles and "Imagine" by John Lennon but I have no idea what you are ranting about. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #152

Except, the only thing that "changed" after "Kennedy was killed" is the U.S. got MORE LIBERAL, apocalypsehow Jan 2012 #153

Ceelo needs to educate himself. go west young man Jan 2012 #155