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rgbecker

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27. rather this from Wikipedia:
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:58 PM
Sep 2018

The 60-vote rule
See also: Filibuster in the United States Senate

Beginning with a rules change in 1806, the Senate has traditionally not restricted the total time allowed for debate. In 1917, Rule XXII was amended to allow for ending debate (invoking "cloture&quot with a two-thirds majority, later reduced in 1975 to three-fifths of all senators "duly chosen and sworn" (usually 60).[4] Thus, although a bill might have majority support, a minority of 41 or more senators can still prevent a final vote through endless debate, effectively defeating the bill. This tactic is known as a filibuster.

Since the 1970s, the Senate has also used a "two-track" procedure whereby Senate business may continue on other topics while one item is filibustered. Since filibusters no longer required the minority to actually hold the floor and bring all other business to a halt, the mere threat of a filibuster has gradually become normalized. In the modern Senate, this means that any controversial item now typically requires 60 votes to advance, unless a specific exception limiting the time for debate applies.

Changing Rule XXII to eliminate the 60-vote rule is made difficult by the rules themselves. Rule XXII sec. 2 states that to end debate on any proposal "to amend the Senate rules...the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the Senators present and voting." This is typically 67 senators assuming all are voting. Meanwhile, Rule V sec. 2 states that "[t]he rules of the Senate shall continue from one Congress to the next Congress unless they are changed as provided in these rules."[4] Effectively, these provisions mean that the general 60-vote cloture rule in Rule XXII can never be modified without the approval of 67 senators.

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We can thank him... W_HAMILTON Sep 2018 #1
This WheelWalker Sep 2018 #2
Ideally, yes... regnaD kciN Sep 2018 #8
Desperate times require desperate courage. Time will tell. WheelWalker Sep 2018 #15
Get 60 dems in the senate YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #3
Doing that will depend on a lot of retirements. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #4
Incorrect. W_HAMILTON Sep 2018 #7
FDR tried that and didn't succeed. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #10
If Democrats sure up their majority in the Senate standingtall Sep 2018 #16
FDR did succeed Major Nikon Sep 2018 #26
+1. It was a powerful threat - they knew the expansion plan was perfectly legal dalton99a Sep 2018 #28
Reid changed the rule on judges. former9thward Sep 2018 #12
Remember the context of how that happened standingtall Sep 2018 #18
The last time the number of judges on the Supreme Court Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2018 #29
+1, don't forget MD doesn't have a SOL on the type of assault committed by KNaw and Judge so ... uponit7771 Sep 2018 #6
No one is going to be "put in jail". former9thward Sep 2018 #13
We can also thank Sidthelib Sep 2018 #5
This is false on its face, Reid had to stop the abuse of filibuster of Obama judges. McConnell took uponit7771 Sep 2018 #9
At best that's a partisan perspective mythology Sep 2018 #17
Partisan and factual and the filibuster is supposed to be used when a super majority doesn't want uponit7771 Sep 2018 #21
And that would be absurd standingtall Sep 2018 #24
There will never be another SCOTUS nomination confirmed unless the party who has the Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #11
McConnell Turbineguy Sep 2018 #14
None of us are okay with it. Obama mentioned it in that speech he did a few weeks ago; part of Amaryllis Sep 2018 #19
Clarence Thomas was approved 52-48. stopbush Sep 2018 #20
Filibuster GeorgeGist Sep 2018 #22
Here's a short explanation of the Clarence Thomas vote. rgbecker Sep 2018 #25
The 60 vote Sgent Sep 2018 #23
rather this from Wikipedia: rgbecker Sep 2018 #27
While that article is true Sgent Sep 2018 #30
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